Playstation Classic

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It's tempting, just to have a plug-&-play system with great games that I can easily shift between my house, my sister's and my grandparent's place.
 
A bit too expensive for a novelty item. 100 bucks is what I paid for a full-featured PS2 (new), which supports all PSX games as well. And the PS3 (which can play those games upscaled to HD) didn't cost much more.
 

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A bit too expensive for a novelty item. 100 bucks is what I paid for a full-featured PS2 (new), which supports all PSX games as well. And the PS3 (which can play those games upscaled to HD) didn't cost much more.

Ouch, that much?

Okay that puts a damper on things.

£100 for just 20 games from the nineties...

No that sounds like too much.
 
I paid 150 euros for the SNES Classic, and still it was cheaper than buying all the individual games, plus FF6 was never released in Europe.
Depending on the games, 100 quid might be a bargain.

I love the minis. I'm sure I'll get this too. Hopefully Konami will stop being a jerk and let Sony include Castlevania Symphony of the Night and Klonoa.
 

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I paid 150 euros for the SNES Classic, and still it was cheaper than buying all the individual games, plus FF6 was never released in Europe.
Depending on the games, 100 quid might be a bargain.

I love the minis. I'm sure I'll get this too. Hopefully Konami will stop being a jerk and let Sony include Castlevania Symphony of the Night and Klonoa.

True, but personally I see that £100 as part of a new PC.

If it were a bit less, I probably would buy, but seeing as the price is non-negotiable... I'd rather spend that much on something else.
 
Nostalgia is never a pretty beast to feed. I had fond memories of Soul Blade on PS1, and one ill advised day after playing a later game in the series I thought I'd fire up the PS1 and stick the disk in. Terrible move.
 

That would be nice if I didn't buy and setup a RetroPi with over 7,000 games from the old Commodore 64 PC up to PS1, foreign and domestic titles ('84 Elite included), about 8 months ago. :D
I paid slightly less for the whole setup than the PS Classic (ROMS were free for the exception of a few systems). I literally have games I can hardly play because I don't know how to read Japanese, German or French. [haha]

RetroPie 4.4 Is Out With Raspberry Pi 3 B+ Support (~5mins)
[video=youtube;ZoQJu5w5Yd8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQJu5w5Yd8[/video]

[Edit] Awesome find, though!
 
Nostalgia is a nice thing, but I think most people don't really play with these overpriced vanity items.

I do have some Mega Drive classics in my Steam library. Tried them once, never touched ever since. I think I got a playthrough in Streets of Rage 2, but that's an exception.
 
Nostalgia is a nice thing, but I think most people don't really play with these overpriced vanity items.

I do have some Mega Drive classics in my Steam library. Tried them once, never touched ever since. I think I got a playthrough in Streets of Rage 2, but that's an exception.

Many games have a pure nostalgic value, but are rarely fun to play. But there are games that still holds up extremely well against modern titles. Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Super Metroid, Final Fantasy 7, R-type, Wipeout 2097, Wonder Boy III, all are amazing games that are fun to play even 20-30 years later.

But yeah, nostalgia is usually just nostalgia and don't have any real gameplay value today.
Many old games are expensive thanks to its reputation and not to its gameplay value.
 
Full list of games:

Battle Arena Toshinden
Cool Boarders 2
Destruction Derby
Final Fantasy VII
Grand Theft Auto
Intelligent Qube
Jumping Flash!
Metal Gear Solid
Mr. Driller
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Rayman
Resident Evil Director's Cut
Revelations: Persona
Ridge Racer Type 4
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Syphon Filter
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Twisted Metal
Wild Arms

There's a sense of disappointment here... PSX had a huge library of great games though and not everyone can be pleased I guess. :)
 
Nostalgia is never a pretty beast to feed. I had fond memories of Soul Blade on PS1, and one ill advised day after playing a later game in the series I thought I'd fire up the PS1 and stick the disk in. Terrible move.

Haha, there's some of that alright. But imho it's also a lot because that's a generation of games that has really aged badly. That early 3d on consoles is pretty awful between (hardware-forced as opposed to by-design) low-poly, bad textures, low LoD, bad flat backgrounds... It's basically everything we have these days, except worse in pretty much every facet, whereas the late-gen 2d games still feel current enough as it's not like we've had a pixel tech revolution. See Castlevania SotN for a same-hardware game that has aged far more gracefully.

I can go back and play lots of old stuff, but getting into console 3d games of that era is... challenging... to say the least. I have some fantastic memories of Bloody Roar 2 on PS2, and while that was a little bit better tech-wise, they're probably also better left at that.

(also, if you weren't playing Seung Mina in Soul Blade, you were wrong)
 
Many games have a pure nostalgic value, but are rarely fun to play. But there are games that still holds up extremely well against modern titles. Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Super Metroid, Final Fantasy 7, R-type, Wipeout 2097, Wonder Boy III, all are amazing games that are fun to play even 20-30 years later.

I'd argue that they don't necessarily "hold up" against modern titles, so much as they were so well designed with their technical and mechanical limitations in mind, that technological progress and progress of modern games didn't manage to add much to their formula. Similar to how chess exist as a timeless game that wouldn't necessarily benefit from adding e.g. "line of sight" mechanics or football is played largely the same way as 70 years ago and adding more players per team and three differently colored balls wouldn't necesarily improve it.

I'm thinking especially about things like FF6/7/..., Super Metroid or Zelda AlttP. You do not necessarily care (as much) that they're technically behind something like RDR2 by about 25+ years, because their design is so well made from a mechanics and game design perspective, that the technical limitations become a bit of a non-factor. If a modern game picks up and variegates the same formula with relatively little changes, e.g. Hollow Knight (most highly recommended for Metroidvania lovers) compared to Super Metroid, the fact that the game's formula is essentially 25 years old, doesn't hurt the experience much.

But compare early, clunky 3D 3rd person action platformers with a bit of shooting to modern entries (old vs. new Tomb Raider) and you may realize that the game's mechanics benefitted immensely from technical adancements and the old games properly feel old and outdated.


Which is my problem with the early 3D systems, like the PS1 or N64. Even of my favorite games from that generation, Zelda OoT and MM, I'd rather play the 3DS ports, which don't run at +/-20fps but at a solid 30fps and sport some carefully polished visuals.
 
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Full list of games:

Battle Arena Toshinden
Cool Boarders 2
Destruction Derby
Final Fantasy VII
Grand Theft Auto
Intelligent Qube
Jumping Flash!
Metal Gear Solid
Mr. Driller
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Rayman
Resident Evil Director's Cut
Revelations: Persona
Ridge Racer Type 4
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Syphon Filter
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Twisted Metal
Wild Arms

There's a sense of disappointment here... PSX had a huge library of great games though and not everyone can be pleased I guess. :)

GTA 1 but no WipeOut? No Spyro? No Medievil? Oh well, someone will probably buy this, but not me.
 

Mu77ley

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Abe's Odyssey is legendary, one of the best games ever. If you you're not familiar with that franchise, I highly advise checking it out.

Yeah, already got it on PC though ;)

I'd pre-ordered it as an xmas present for the kids, but since the full game list is so poor I've now cancelled.
 
I blame Nintendo for this new nonsense idea, that starts becoming a trend seems like. Jeez, just release old games on new platforms and make sure your new consoles are backwards compatible. Until then I use emulators with no shame :)
 
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