Please don't attack defenseless...

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Imo

Imo
Glad you are there. Years ago when I got my first stock Anaconda after saving Credits for one year (!) - making Credits was way harder at that time - on my first trip to Deciat immediately the gankers of Adles Armada engaged on me. Can't imagine how many pilots experienced like this since then!
 

LeKeno

LeKeno
I have my fleet carrier (EDR Central - B6J-0HZ) parked near Farseer with a buy order for Meta Alloys in case folks have some leftovers. IIRC, it's set at 2x Asterope's price.

As soon as I get a good stock, I will look into helping new players who want to unlock the engineer without the hassle, or helping new pilots who may have lost their stock due to one of these outlaws.
 

Slange Lands

Slange Lands
I will try to remember to get meta alloys for the SPEAR and EDR carriers. Then those who lose their meta alloys for Farseer can get them in system. Do any of you know how long between purchases of meta alloys I have to wait at Darnielle's Progress? I am SRV challenged so I won't be getting Meta Alloys in vivo.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
LeKeno said:
"But Sir, I was just taking a break from my outlaw-ways. How dare you come punish me while I'm out on the beach? I wasn't doing anything wrong in the moment, that's unfair... That's... that's... that's ganking!"

So, what?
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This is the way the game works.
If you're clean, you're clean. Don't wonder why people accuse you of ganking and being unlawful yourself if you attack clean ships.
 

TEBORI

TEBORI
@quelcertoleo
the war status between code and spear was never revoked. spear is on war with code for their terroristic roleplay in the game and toxic moves outside. every code ship will be attacked on sight no matter in which ship the pilot is. in case code wants to change this state we are accepting negotiations. if you dont want to be treated like terrorists they way is easy. stop griefing other players!

in addition: role playing pirates who focus really on the goods and not on the kills are not considered as role playing terrorists in the spear network.

This was also posted as comment in your "i am the victim" video.
 

quelcertoleo

quelcertoleo
Bigmaec said:
Not for having done anything bad.
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a speeding fine is enough to be considered a target.
LeKeno said:
"But Sir, I was just taking a break from my outlaw-ways. How dare you come punish me while I'm out on the beach? I wasn't doing anything wrong in the moment, that's unfair... That's... that's... that's ganking!"

So, what?
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outlaw? I do not see any outlaw with wanted status in that video.
Oh, I think you mean outlaw as "outlaw determined by my EULA-violation out-of-game-data-harvesting-tool".

so what, what?
 

Cmdr ST4R F0X

Cmdr ST4R F0X
Youve been saying this a long time akuma, and during that time ive killed over 2500 players at farseer. Nobody respects you as far as they can throw you, so any time you drop a wing of 4 on me, i block you all and continue ganking, then unblock when im done...... and when you drop in a single enforcer for me, i rip their head off and crap down their neck, yourself included. Did you praise Dilix for his fantastic enforcement job lastnight ? Or did he not tell you about this one ? ;)
Source: https://youtu.be/GVVTsE-uC50
 

KuzSan

KuzSan
as Akuma said above, they gank and grief everyone who they want (as there's no exact definition of toxics and terrorists from them, same as spear "kos list". They shoot first and then ask like usual griefers. Video above is a good example that they camp farceer base like their russian griefer allies, I was also attacked on my unarmed conda with basic shield generator by spear pilots when I went there to engineer my FSD. I'm not ganking/griefing randoms for a long time and edr check can prove that as I'm going to have "lawful" status (unless Lekeno will redact it), so your "stop griefing" propaganda messages is just lying, you are same terrorists as players who you're pointing at.
 

Herbrand

Herbrand
Cmdr ST4R F0X said:
Youve been saying this a long time akuma, and during that time ive killed over 2500 players at farseer. Nobody respects you as far as they can throw you, so any time you drop a wing of 4 on me, i block you all and continue ganking, then unblock when im done...... and when you drop in a single enforcer for me, i rip their head off and crap down their neck, yourself included. Did you praise Dilix for his fantastic enforcement job lastnight ? Or did he not tell you about this one ? ;)
Source: https://youtu.be/GVVTsE-uC50
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Never understood how actually good pilots can be proud of killing defenseless CMDRs.
 

Just Paul

Just Paul
Filthymick420 said:
What makes it a TOS violation? I thought open meant any cmdr was a fair target in this manner, however unscrupulous it may be...

I dont support ganking, far from it, I just thought it was how open worked. You consent to being susceptible to attack, right? So it should go both ways, if the ganker gets ganked its poetic justice. Isn't it?
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From the CoC:

Harassment

We do not tolerate harassment within our community or our games. This is defined as being insulting to any person via obscene, offensive, hateful or inflammatory comments. This also includes the prolonged, extensive, and/or malicious targeting of an individual or group of individuals through Frontier-owned platforms for the purposes of disruption or agitation.

Also look here for some more details: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/support-update-reiteration-of-player-harassment-rules.237761/

There is a difference between shooting 20 random people or shooting the same person 20 times. The first one is within the rules and the 2nd one can run afoul them. Same as boycotting a system or following a group around with the intend to disrupt their game play. First one no, 2nd high possibility of yes. Note, boycotting a system can be done by both sides. There is a fine line between role-play and targeted harassment. Looking from the outside some self-documented behavior might have crossed or is very close to that line.

How Elite is setup if you shoot a clean ship you are a criminal, simple.
 

Slange Lands

Slange Lands
Fleet Carriers can not only be used to help one's self and one's friends, but also to help new players.

I think it would be great if the SPEAR, EDR and other carriers were able to help new Commanders with the Engineering Grind by providing some of the commodities that certain engineers need like meta alloys, kamitra cigars, fujin tea, etc. An Engineers Unlock Bank as it were.

We need more PvPers...of all kinds. In order to PvP, grade five engineers to Palin is necessary... and an unnecessarily soul-sucking experience.

Should any of us find ourselves in a station that sells engineering unlock materials, be sure to buy some of these essential rares and donate to a carrier of your choice?

New PvPers should be spending their time learning combat skills and FA off. Not going 5000ly to nowhere, not waiting for a timer so they can buy more trinkets for an engineer. It took me years and thousands of hours in combat to get to the point where I am comfortable PvPing. It is a significant committment to master Elite's flight model. Let's help and honor those who are willing to try.
 

Sister Kate

Sister Kate
Unlocking engineers helps you learn the basics of the game, like how to find materials etc. It can be done really quickly without the need to be spoon fed. New PVPers should be spending their time doing what they want to do, how they want to do it and at the pace they want to. I'm sure certain groups will be helping their own out...as it should be.

But back on topic.....Deciat.... :unsure: well, I actually have nothing to say about the topic but at least I brought us back on topic ;)
 
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