Please Frontier - a ship courier service...

Oblivious

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Please, please please... please please please please please please.... can we get a ship courier service?

You know, for a fee we can have a ship we own delivered to a station of our choice.
IMO, nothing sucks more than having to fly a thousand light years to get back to a ship we stashed somewhere, and there's absolutely no way a service like this would not exist in reality, and I venture to say that long before recreational SRV's became available, a ship delivery service would have existed. I would even go so far to say that, given the capitalist nature of humanity, such a service would be among THE FIRST of the new companies of a space-faring age, and there would probably be thousands of them vying for my hard-earned spacebucks.

Thank you in advance for adding this feature at your earliest convenience.
Preferably much earlier than your earliest convenience. :D

And along those lines, while this is no major deal, it would also be cool to have a third option in a station's shipyard:
'Retrieve this ship and sell this piece of crap you bought just to get here'

That is all.
 
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GJ51

GJ51
It would also be nice to be able to log on and select which station/ship you want to be at.

Also, how about being able to re-fit, buy/sell any ship you own from wherever you are currently at, from the Shipyard menu. Really??? I can't just instruct a remote station to sell a ship I have in storage?

How about being able to book passage on another ship to a station where I have a ship stored?

Oh, sorry, no passenger ships can carry passengers yet - forgot about that...

It would probably be so boring setting up a passenger booking service where CMDR's could request passage and other CMDR's could provide that service for a negotiated fee.

Would that be called ....


Dare I say it...


Content??????????
 
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Oblivious

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Great suggestions, guys! :D

So, here in 2016 on good old Planet Earth with all its comparative ancient technology, I could call a Ford dealer in Washington state and buy a brand new Explorer and have it delivered directly to my home in Florida in just a couple days, but a thousand+ years later I can't have my Cobra transported even just from Sol to Nanomam, which is like the equivalent of driving from Orlando to Tampa. :mad:
 
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Iskariot

Iskariot
Oblivious said:
Please, please please... please please please please please please.... can we get a ship courier service?
You know, for a fee we can have a ship we own delivered to a station of our choice.
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I am all for it.



GJ51 said:
It would also be nice to be able to log on and select which station/ship you want to be at.
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I'm all against it.


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Oh, sorry, no passenger ships can carry passengers yet - forgot about that...
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Would that be called ....
Dare I say it...
Content??????????
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Don't care for the disrespectful tone.
Somebody just started a thread about that.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222487
 
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Oblivious

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Kerrash said:
It has been hinted at before.
I believe FDev want to support a ship delivery service at some point in a future update.
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I'm pretty sure I made this same suggestion a while back, shortly after I first began with Elite Dangerous last April. Either that or I replied to someone else's thread on the subject. I know this is not the first time it's been brought up, certainly not by far...

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And yeah, it would defeat a number of purposes to be able to start a session from the station of your choice...
 

Oblivious

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I was just thinking that if Frontier doesn't want to add the feature themselves, it would be cool if they created some mechanic to allow other enterprising individuals or groups to offer the service for a profit.
That could possibly be even more complicated, and then you also get into other issues, for example, if your courier decides to steal your ship or manages to get it destroyed on the way to you...

On the other hand, creating such a mechanic could open an enormous range of possibilities for more interaction among players and more reality in the game...

Just thinking out loud here. :D
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Appreciate the idea, but as you suggested it would take as much if not more resources to implement it either way ;)
 

Oblivious

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Kerrash said:
Appreciate the idea, but as you suggested it would take as much if not more resources to implement it either way ;)
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Yeah, but damn, it would be cool to be able to actually start your own businesses and stuff in the galaxy.
A courier service aside, imagine being able to start your own bounty hunting business and take a share of the cut for arranging the untimely demise of high-dollar criminals...
Or on the flip side, how about Piracy Inc. ? :D

So many possibilities... I'm not a programmer, but even so I get the sense that would be inordinately complex. :eek:
 
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TheSisko

TheSisko
Oblivious said:
I was just thinking that if Frontier doesn't want to add the feature themselves, it would be cool if they created some mechanic to allow other enterprising individuals or groups to offer the service for a profit.
That could possibly be even more complicated, and then you also get into other issues, for example, if your courier decides to steal your ship or manages to get it destroyed on the way to you...

On the other hand, creating such a mechanic could open an enormous range of possibilities for more interaction among players and more reality in the game...

Just thinking out loud here. :D
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LOL, I can see the angry threads now:

"Anyone seen my Cutter?!?!"

:D

But yeah, a ship-moving service is required. I would suggest that there would be a small risk of the ship being damaged during transit, due to the courier being interdicted.
 

Psycho Romeo

Psycho Romeo
Personally, I am against the idea. It's a suggestion out of convenience, and erodes at the consequence of ship choice.
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If someone buys a corvette, or FDL, or VIII, or FGS, they should be feeling the consequence of buying that ship instead of a anaconda, or CIII, or AE. Having your ship delivered to you, being able to choose which ship you start in, or anything similar makes this choice less consequential.
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If someone wants to do combat, but also wants to do a lot of jumping, they should buy an anaconda, and reap the benefits of multipurpose flexibility. If someone wants to just do combat and sit in one area, they may want to consider a corvette, and reap the benefits of two huge hard points. If they want to bring their corvette to the other side of the bubble, they should have to sit there for two hours and do that - not just order their corvette to be hauled overnight.
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Bracing for impact.
 

Oblivious

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Psycho Romeo said:
Personally, I am against the idea. It's a suggestion out of convenience, and erodes at the consequence of ship choice.
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If someone buys a corvette, or FDL, or VIII, or FGS, they should be feeling the consequence of buying that ship instead of a anaconda, or CIII, or AE. Having your ship delivered to you, being able to choose which ship you start in, or anything similar makes this choice less consequential.
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If someone wants to do combat, but also wants to do a lot of jumping, they should buy an anaconda, and reap the benefits of multipurpose flexibility. If someone wants to just do combat and sit in one area, they may want to consider a corvette, and reap the benefits of two huge hard points. If they want to bring their corvette to the other side of the bubble, they should have to sit there for two hours and do that - not just order their corvette to be hauled overnight.
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Bracing for impact.
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If the intention of the game is to make it as limiting as possible, then your rationalization makes sense, but the whole game feels like it wants to be a representation of real life in the galaxy.
I have a pickup truck I use for work, and a car I use for general transport. By your logic I should have to have just one car and live with the consequences that I may have to spend twice as much on gas to take my wife somewhere nice, or not be able to pick up a new refrigerator on my way home from work?

If Frontier wanted us to play it that way, we would only be allowed to own one ship at a time. Since we can own as many ships as we want, and can play as many roles as we want, we should also have the ability to do that within a more realistic manner, and as I said before, there's no galaxy full of humans living in Frontier's alternate reality of Elite that would not have ship courier services, because as a species we're simply all about choices and variety and capitalizing on others' needs for choice and variety.
 
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Psycho Romeo

Psycho Romeo
Oblivious said:
I have a pickup truck I use for work, and a car I use for general transport. By your logic I should have to have just one car and live with the consequences that I may have to spend twice as much on gas to take my wife somewhere nice, or not be able to pick up a new refrigerator on my way home from work?
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My example is an OR, not an AND. You may choose a truck that is good for work, or a car that is more multipurpose. Each choice has its consequences. If there was some courier service that allowed you to choose the truck that is good for work but also evade its consequence, then the choice has become that much less meaningful.
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If Frontier wanted us to play it that way, we would only be allowed to own one ship at a time.
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And this was almost the case. As I understand, it was a begrudging compromise that allows us to own more than one.
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Not really interested in justifying the fantasy at this time.
 

AJW

AJW
If it was done, it would have to work within the limitations inherent in a real courier service - not just the element of risk, but the delay. And a truly exorbitant price for deliveries outside the bubble, if they were permitted at all - personally, I don't think they should be. Instant 'replacement ships' would make a nonsense of exploration.
 

Oblivious

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Psycho Romeo said:
My example is an OR, not an AND. You may choose a truck that is good for work, or a car that is more multipurpose. Each choice has its consequences. If there was some courier service that allowed you to choose the truck that is good for work but also evade its consequence, then the choice has become that much less meaningful.
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And this was almost the case. As I understand, it was a begrudging compromise that allows us to own more than one.
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Not really interested in justifying the fantasy at this time.
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Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion on the matter, but I completely disagree.

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AJW said:
If it was done, it would have to work within the limitations inherent in a real courier service - not just the element of risk, but the delay. And a truly exorbitant price for deliveries outside the bubble, if they were permitted at all - personally, I don't think they should be. Instant 'replacement ships' would make a nonsense of exploration.
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Yeah, of course, and I never said anything about 'instant' or 'replacement'. I said I would like to have a ship that I already own that's stashed at some station delivered to a station elsewhere, perhaps even with the stipulation that it has to be a station I'm actually at. And yeah, a realistic waiting time included.

I guess it all depends on what people want out of the game, but it sounds like some people want it to be a pain in the ass just for the sake of being a pain in the ass, not out of any need to be more real. There's no way at all such services would not exist in the galaxy that Frontier has created, so if anything it adds more realism.

For that matter, maybe it doesn't even have to be a service. What about an autopilot module? Naturally of course requiring a sacrifice to be made to own such a module, for example, at the expense of not having a planetary landing suite or in lieu of a cargo hold? After all, you can land on a planet now and dismiss your ship and have it come to your location when you want, so that's already built in, in a limited sense, but the next logical step would be ships that can travel long distances on their own.

But I'll say it again: Anyone who wants to disagree is more than welcome to for whatever reason and that's cool, but don't forget that even in the future we're still people, and the same people who still buy beer and bog spaniels would certainly also have other conveniences such as ship couriers.
 

dxm55

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Either a ship valet service.... or a taxi service to the next star system.
Who knows, maybe once they've brought passenger missions to the game, you might even be able to hitch a ride with another player.
 
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