Please give us a brake only block zone and no drive tires

[Arix]

This is dumb, trim brakes are also block zones too right? Well sometimes, that’s why they should add a choice of drive tire block brakes and brake only block zones.

 

[MrHappy]

Nope. The challenge you are having here is that brake sections won't count as block sections. But a block section will work as a brake. You have to always have 1 more block section than trains. So if you want 4 trains you have to have 5 block sections. Then in the coaster info panel make sure you switch from standard mode to block section mode.

 

[Arix]

Yes, but trim brakes are made to keep you going but slow you down in the middle, the brake only appearance I want them to add on the block zones will stop them completely if the next block zone is not cleared and will get them going WITHOUT needing drive tires.

 

[Valdo82]

And how do you want to move the fully stopped train? I mean you need to have some type of way to get your train moving, after it came to a stop.

 

[Arix]

Sometimes the brakes have magnets to them that can be controlled like a coaster launch but the magnets on the block brakes are weaker so they will be used to get you to the speed you want.

 

[Ramm]

And how do you want to move the fully stopped train? I mean you need to have some type of way to get your train moving, after it came to a stop.

Roller coasters work by gravity.

Many real life coasters have block sections on a slight slope down without drive tires.

I remember this being a much requested feature for PC1 too and I hate it that I have to make every block section flat it just makes it look unrealistic and kills the momentum

 

[Valdo82]

I am cool with sloped brakeruns, though i wouldn't say they are common (out of my head I would even say i never riden one, but i know about i305 and leviathan at Canada's Wonderland)

On flat i would like the friction wheels still be there but way better hidden, cause this is the way most modern coasters do it.

Brake run - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

'Block brake sections must also be engineered so that the train can begin moving again upon release, either by using a slight downward slope to let gravity take its course or by using drive tires to push the train out of the block.'

 

[Arix]

So then how do the brakes on Magnum-XL 200 work? They sometimes stop you COMPLETELY and then get you going after without a slope or drive tires. It’s called stacking btw.

 

[Ramm]

You can't argue with physics. The train can only move after a standstil by either gravity, drive tires, lsm or little gnomes pushing it.

 

[Arix]

You missed it, I said that the brakes sometimes have permanent magnets that are weaker than actual lsms that keeps it going after it completely stops and sometimes they don’t have magnets.

 

[Arix]

“And you can’t argue against real life” because some roller coasters irl have this feature.

 

[MrHappy]

It could be that it's just not a feature of the game. They have been busy to add switch tracks and tilt tracks etc so maybe more elements will come later. Who knows

 

[Ramm]

You missed it, I said that the brakes sometimes have permanent magnets that are weaker than actual lsms that keeps it going after it completely stops and sometimes they don’t have magnets.

“And you can’t argue against real life” because some roller coasters irl have this feature.

Okay permanent magnets, I did not know this but yes that is indeed also a way to move the train then! There always has to be some sort of force on it.

 

[Richmountain112]

Yes, but trim brakes are made to keep you going but slow you down in the middle, the brake only appearance I want them to add on the block zones will stop them completely if the next block zone is not cleared and will get them going WITHOUT needing drive tires.

Without the drive tires, they will look identical to normal brakes and it will be near impossible to tell them apart.

If you really want a block section with as little drive tires as possible, make the block brake itself 4 meters long and add as many trim brakes as you want behind them.

 

[Arix]

Without the drive tires, they will look identical to normal brakes and it will be near impossible to tell them apart.

If you really want a block section with as little drive tires as possible, make the block brake itself 4 meters long and add as many trim brakes as you want behind them.

What i’m trying to say is they need to add magnetic and eddy brakes combined together as a second choice of block brakes so it can stop it completely and make the train move forward again without any tires at all.

 

[Richmountain112]

What i’m trying to say is they need to add magnetic and eddy brakes combined together as a second choice of block brakes so it can stop it completely and make the train move forward again without any tires at all.

There are only a few coaster types I can think of that wouldn't need drive tires - all of them are launch only (no lift hill whatsoever): The Premier Rides LIM Launch coaster, the Intamin suspended catapult coaster (same as the impulse coaster), and the B&M surf coaster. The first 2 use LIMs instead and the last one uses LSMs.

However, the surf coaster is the only one with block sections in-game, with the premier rides LIM launch coaster not being present at all and the suspended catapult coaster has no block sections at all yet (at least without hacking, and as of now hacking appears to be unable to add block sections to it). Weirdly, the surf coaster still has drive tires in the block section track piece. It's unavoidable for now though so the best option would be to cover up the drive tires using scenery.

 

[Arix]

Well there are a lot of coaster types that use magnetic brakes, like most of the coasters currently in Planet Coaster 2 right now.