Polar bear habitat problem

I put maybe 30-40 cooler to make full of snow but when I check heat map I cannot change water degree even I put cooler in water , degree is same , and when the polar bear enters water , it says low welfare because the water is hot .
does anyone have same issue ?
 

Paul_Crowther

Senior Community Manager
Frontier
You can control the temperature of your coolers (You will also need to ensure they have power) by clicking the cooler. If however you've done this and it's not making any impact then please can you report it on our Issue Tracker for our developers to investigate.
 
Have the same issue, the entire habitat is cool enough for the polar bears, but the water temperature can't be changed with coolers, so the bears get low welfare every time they go for a swim :( Right now this means you can only realisticly have Polar bears in tundra and taiga maps :(
 
I believe that polar bears shouldn't be kept outside the Tundra biome so again I agree with Frontier on this decision. Tundra is a Finnish word that means treeless plain which is perhaps why we don't have Tundra foliage.
 
I don't think I've had this problem but in my mexican scenario zoo it was an indoor habitat so maybe that is why. Or it may just not have come up yet
 
I believe that polar bears shouldn't be kept outside the Tundra biome so again I agree with Frontier on this decision. Tundra is a Finnish word that means treeless plain which is perhaps why we don't have Tundra foliage.

But this doesn't only effect polar bears, it effects any animal that needs heater or coolers. I think this is an oversight with the coolers/heaters, not intentional. Or maybe they just didn't test it out at the extremes.
 
But this doesn't only effect polar bears, it effects any animal that needs heater or coolers. I think this is an oversight with the coolers/heaters, not intentional. Or maybe they just didn't test it out at the extremes.

No animal needs heaters or coolers if you keep them in their native biome. I don't mean to sound snobby here, I have a different approach to the game that values the conservation of animals over providing the largest possible variety of beasts for people to look at. I prefer building natural animal sanctuaries that admit people over modern zoos. I've found it's still possible to have a marginally profitable zoo this way and that makes me happy :)
 
No animal needs heaters or coolers if you keep them in their native biome. I don't mean to sound snobby here, I have a different approach to the game that values the conservation of animals over providing the largest possible variety of beasts for people to look at. I prefer building natural animal sanctuaries that admit people over modern zoos. I've found it's still possible to have a marginally profitable zoo this way and that makes me happy :)

Fine if that is the way you want to play. But this is a zoo game and most zoos keep animals from all over the world. Many animals have a much larger tolerance range for temps and terrain than they do in the game. There is no reason what so ever that we can not heat or cool water. I really don't want to be limited to 'natural habitat'. I surprisingly play this game for fun. I do agree with realism but there is a point when it is no longer fun. And in the end this is a video game. They can still get across education and conservation while having a fun game that makes sense.
 
You can control the temperature of your coolers (You will also need to ensure they have power) by clicking the cooler. If however you've done this and it's not making any impact then please can you report it on our Issue Tracker for our developers to investigate.
It is -10 but i’ll send a ticket
Have the same issue, the entire habitat is cool enough for the polar bears, but the water temperature can't be changed with coolers, so the bears get low welfare every time they go for a swim :( Right now this means you can only realisticly have Polar bears in tundra and taiga maps :(
plus i can’t plant trees either because there is no ‘arctic ‘ plants.
 
plus i can’t plant trees either because there is no ‘arctic ‘ plants.

Honestly it's worth just ignoring that restriction. Frontier didn't actually do that much research into polar bear husbandry (as much as they like to claim otherwise). Put down the trees and plants, the bears get a negative bump for it but it can be balanced with other things (overall welfare only needs to be around 90% or something).

On the topic of temperatures, the waterfall enrichment item is too cold for most animals that use it. My hippos always get a low welfare alert after using it because it lowers their temperature too much. The temperature either needs to be warmer (since all the animals that use it are warm-climate animals) or adjustable like with the heaters/coolers.
 
It can be changed. I had at first the same Problem with my Polar Bear Enclosure but then I found out the Water Temperature can't be seen from above. You need to go under the Surface to see in which Area the Cooler cools down the Water. Also there are some Plants that can be used in Polar Bear Enclosures. You can use Plants from the same Biome even though they are not from the same Continent. I have some Plants on the Waterfall in my Polar Bear Enclosure and it works fine.


On the topic of temperatures, the waterfall enrichment item is too cold for most animals that use it. My hippos always get a low welfare alert after using it because it lowers their temperature too much. The temperature either needs to be warmer (since all the animals that use it are warm-climate animals) or adjustable like with the heaters/coolers.
I think it was adjustable during the Beta(at least the Sprinkler). I don't know why they changed it
 
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