Polling the Alliance Elections
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Is there time for that if the vote is today and the result is to be announced later this week?
There was an earlier CG on this story, with Esuseku Caviar, Ceremonial Heike Tea and Live Hecate Sea Worms as the goods. Stereotypically, Caviar would be the Corporate, Tea the Social, and Worms the creepy authoritarian. So maybe the caviar delivery was the smallest portion so the corporate candidate gets assassinated?
Election day, and nobody told me where I am supposed to vote. Don't have a ballot, or even voter card of any kind.
But at least Beck hasn't been found dead yet, so that's progress...
But at least Beck hasn't been found dead yet, so that's progress...
How is it a retcon?
The existence of the office of Alliance President at all - even as a non-executive ceremonial role - wasn't mentioned at all in the description of how the superpowers are governed in the old lore post.
Last year's election (Kincaid) and the ones previous to that (who cares?) were such low profile affairs as to not be mentioned in Galnet - which seems rather at odds, even for a purely ceremonial role, for one elected annually by public vote across Alliance space - and Kincaid's first entrance into the public sphere was criticising the lack of powers of the President ... and not, as even a ceremonial figurehead might, speaking up for the Alliance at various interstellar events.
It's fairly clear that the Alliance didn't have an office of President this time last year, let's say.
(Inevitably when adding considerably more story content - as they have since 2.4 and especially since 3.0 - some of the extremely vague statements before may need retconning a bit to make things more interesting. But it does mean that basic questions about "how is the President elected and who gets a vote" are just not answered anywhere - whereas the old lore post is pretty clear about the Prime Minister, or the Federal President, etc.)
Ah but the Alliance having a Ceremonial President that changes annually and a Prime Minister who ran the Legislative assembly was always part of the lore we received
We have just never been told who the President of the alliance was
We have been asking for years
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/223401-When-is-the-Alliance-presidential-electionWe have just never been told who the President of the alliance was
We have been asking for years
Just like we have nothing about the third Party in the Federal Congress,
Libertarians,
other than they exist
I expect Kincade to win. I expect the Alliance will just become the Federation Green edition. And I expect he was involved with the murder of Silva.
I think this because of late FDEV have just aped RL in their stories where right wing (idiotic) populism is on the rise and all the tosspots win.
If the Alliance becomes just another top down right wing power, I think it will be time to remove the Alliance logos from my ships and fight suits and embrace what the Alliance was supposed to be: Independents working together from the bottom up. Because this would have Turner, Adgent and the rest of the Quakers spinning in thier graves.
I think this because of late FDEV have just aped RL in their stories where right wing (idiotic) populism is on the rise and all the tosspots win.
If the Alliance becomes just another top down right wing power, I think it will be time to remove the Alliance logos from my ships and fight suits and embrace what the Alliance was supposed to be: Independents working together from the bottom up. Because this would have Turner, Adgent and the rest of the Quakers spinning in thier graves.
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True - though "the presidency moves between member systems annually" I assume was part of their "space EU" thing - in that sense the presidency of the EU is currently with Austria, not <some Austrian> - so the President being an actual person is a bit of a surprise...
Interestingly, the current Federal legislature seems increasingly non-partisan. No mention of party divisions in support for Juanita Bishop - or what party she was running for - and minimal if any opposition by Winters since her defeat over three years ago. So I'm not completely sure they've even still got two parties, never mind three... (which would match how their Powerplay organisations behave, of course)
Yes, though since the list in the post from Zac has "There are three major parties, Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians" and that was posted long after Halsey had stopped being the Liberal President and Winters had taken over ... I suspect they have on occasion got their "space US" and "land US" confused.
Interestingly, the current Federal legislature seems increasingly non-partisan. No mention of party divisions in support for Juanita Bishop - or what party she was running for - and minimal if any opposition by Winters since her defeat over three years ago. So I'm not completely sure they've even still got two parties, never mind three... (which would match how their Powerplay organisations behave, of course)
Well, to nobody's astonishment, the murderer got himself elected
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5bc717fa571f27250800d065
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5bc717fa571f27250800d065
To me the idea that the presidency is rotating strongly suggests it isn't an elected position. That's what's grating on me.
Well gosh.
We now have one week for the soon to be redundant council to overrule his power-grab changes. Which they won't.
I wonder what decals I'm likely going to need to swap my Alliance logos out for? I wonder if there is a way to get a SMAC logo in game?
That's an interesting idea. And one I had not at all considered.
Many of us believe the same. Though it is hard to see with what thinking, given the backstory they've created. How many Alliance pilots are going to pledge to Kincaid? Not many, I reckon.
Hmmm furthermore, where would he start? Last time I checked (a few months ago) Maaahn was still covering most of Alliance space and certainly it's core. I remember this question being asked when AEDC entered the new power competition, if they won, where would a new Alliance power fit in, without taken away existing Maaahn systems?
A Middle Ground option it seems
“The president will now oversee a team of ambassadorial emissaries who will focus on diplomatic functions. This will free up council members, allowing them to govern more effectively. The presidential term has also been extended to three years.”
Wonder what Kincaid will do with his Ambassadors, will that role be the Alliance version of the Imperial and Federal Naval Auxiliaries, open to Cmdrs?
“The president will now oversee a team of ambassadorial emissaries who will focus on diplomatic functions. This will free up council members, allowing them to govern more effectively. The presidential term has also been extended to three years.”
Wonder what Kincaid will do with his Ambassadors, will that role be the Alliance version of the Imperial and Federal Naval Auxiliaries, open to Cmdrs?
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