General / Off-Topic Possible life discovered on Venus

Para Handy

Para Handy
Filthymick420 said:
Protomolecule?
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Tifu

Tifu
Here's why phosphine is considered to be a very significant life signature.

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Smelly, poisonous molecule may be a sure-fire sign of extraterrestrial life

Phosphine is among the stinkiest, most toxic gases on Earth, found in some of the foulest of places, including penguin dung heaps, the depths of swamps and bogs, and even in the bowels of some badgers and fish. This putrid "swamp gas" is also highly flammable and reactive with particles in our...
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Maolagin

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Morbad said:
Ironic that the most compelling evidence for the existence of extraterrestrial life thus discovered should show up, when not looking for it, on a world we had all but dismissed as a potential habitat for it.
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It's almost better than that. The group behind this finding has been proposing for a couple of years that phosphine would make a good biomarker to search for in exoplanet atmospheres. The Venus observations were made to test the detection method they'd developed on a nearby atmosphere that shouldn't have any phosphine in it. They were all set with analysis methods to show that they could distinguish a negative result from random noise!
 

Robin of Spiritwood

Robin of Spiritwood
Manticore said:
It would be nice to know we're not alone.......... even if it is some microbe.
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We've really had enough of microbes... how do we even kill the ones that live inside a fumigant gas? At temperatures that can melt lead? And survive intense solar radiation, with strong UV rays?

Yes, we maybe found alien life and yes, I want to know how to kill it right off the bat.

Because if somehow some nutcase scientist team bring samples back, and it can somehow live here, and spread, making bloody phosphine toxic gas but we can't kill it, that is all she wrote for pretty much our entire planet.

Don't try to convince me that the labs would be secure. I mean, look at what's going on now, possibly from a lab leak.

Not to mention the obvious other risk, that it might use us to make the phosphine. Human blood has about 3mg/dl phosphorus compounds.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Robin of Spiritwood said:
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Phosphorus plus Sodium Hydroxide and water = Phosphine gas
No wonder Venus is cloudy! They're cooking meth.
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Things like this always remind me of the "things i won't work with" blog.

For example: https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeli...things_i_wont_work_with_triazadienyl_fluoride

If you don't mind wasting a few hours of your life (but potentially saving your life should you ever be in a situation where this info becomes relevant), have a read of some of his articles. He makes deadly stuff sound rather humorous.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Robin of Spiritwood said:
We've really had enough of microbes... how do we even kill the ones that live inside a fumigant gas? At temperatures that can melt lead? And survive intense solar radiation, with strong UV rays?

Yes, we maybe found alien life and yes, I want to know how to kill it right off the bat.

Because if somehow some nutcase scientist team bring samples back, and it can somehow live here, and spread, making bloody phosphine toxic gas but we can't kill it, that is all she wrote for pretty much our entire planet.

Don't try to convince me that the labs would be secure. I mean, look at what's going on now, possibly from a lab leak.

Not to mention the obvious other risk, that it might use us to make the phosphine. Human blood has about 3mg/dl phosphorus compounds.
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Yes we have enough with our microbes on earth and right now with the Covid.

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