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Hell Razor5543

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While I and 3 friends were exploring a system (which I am NOT going to divulge, for obvious reasons) I found that they disappeared from my sensors (although the Wing Indicators were still active). At first I thought this was an instancing issue, but when I moved away from my current location by a hundred or so LS they showed back up again. I turned around, headed back in, and the same happened. It would appear that I was within range of some form of blanketing field. Once they got close enough my wingmen could see me on the sensors again. Suffice to say, this has piqued our interest, and we are all checking out this point in space.

I would point out (although the more astute of you will worked this out) that, had we not been in a wing, this would not have been obvious. It would appear that co-operation is the watchword here.
 

s0laris

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Hell Razor5543 said:
While I and 3 friends were exploring a system (which I am NOT going to divulge, for obvious reasons) I found that they disappeared from my sensors (although the Wing Indicators were still active). At first I thought this was an instancing issue, but when I moved away from my current location by a hundred or so LS they showed back up again. I turned around, headed back in, and the same happened. It would appear that I was within range of some form of blanketing field. Once they got close enough my wingmen could see me on the sensors again. Suffice to say, this has piqued our interest, and we are all checking out this point in space.

I would point out (although the more astute of you will worked this out) that, had we not been in a wing, this would not have been obvious. It would appear that co-operation is the watchword here.
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Welcome to Elite : Dangerous, a single player game, where you can chat with your friends. There will be no multiplayer updates because those who backed the game want to play alone.
 

Kristov

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Hell Razor5543 said:
While I and 3 friends were exploring a system (which I am NOT going to divulge, for obvious reasons) I found that they disappeared from my sensors (although the Wing Indicators were still active). At first I thought this was an instancing issue, but when I moved away from my current location by a hundred or so LS they showed back up again. I turned around, headed back in, and the same happened. It would appear that I was within range of some form of blanketing field. Once they got close enough my wingmen could see me on the sensors again. Suffice to say, this has piqued our interest, and we are all checking out this point in space.

I would point out (although the more astute of you will worked this out) that, had we not been in a wing, this would not have been obvious. It would appear that co-operation is the watchword here.
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You could have encountered a stellar body that isn't visible in the game yet. Did you happen to notice that location was important or was it simply distance?
 

Hell Razor5543

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All objects were noticed (I have an ADS fitted, with a DDS alongside), and when I approached a secondary star (with some planets orbiting it) I noticed the sensors no longer 'saw' my Wingmen (although they could still 'see' the astronomical objects). At this time we have not yet scanned all the objects, as this 'blanketing field' area has got us intrigued.
 
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Hell Razor5543

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I shall explain what happened with more detail (but NOT enough to find where we are), so as to help others to keep their eyes open for this phenomena. There are 2 reasons I will not say where we are; the first is because I am not the 'team leader', I was invited in by somebody else; and second, because if I post the location up here it will almost guarantee the system will be flooded with Player Killers (when I was trying to land near a Barnacle I was, without warning, attacked and destroyed by 2 other players. When I was recently in the MAIA system there were several players in major vessels taking out other vessels that turned up. I left in Solo mode. One player in a Federal Corvette was doing his best to warn others of what was going on.).

The system is within one thousand jumps of Sol. There are 2 (or more) stellar objects (stars, in other words), and 10 (or, again, more) astronomical objects (planets and moons, in other words), but there are NO asteroids. This is all I intend to post descriptive wise.

When I arrived in the system I was on my own, but a friend (who had been told about the system) was going to meet me there. I ran the initial scan, and when I got the results (I did NOT know about the anomaly at this time) I let my friend know. He made haste, and got there within a decent timescale. We winged up, and then started to explore. I then found there was another Commander in the area (and he was surprised to see us), and I invited him into the Wing (he joined). As we continued checking out the system (I was going to a mini solar system, with a stellar object and other objects) I noticed that I could no longer see the other 2 Commanders on my sensors, but I did not think anything of it at this time. I got detailed scans of the objects I was interested in, and then (thinking we had an Instancing issue) I dropped out of Super Cruise, and then went back into SC, but no change. OK; instancing fault was still happening, but we could still communicate, and see each others' ship status indicators. I then headed off to another mini solar system, when I noticed that I could now see the others on sensors. This got my attention, and I pointed it out to the others. I turned around and went back to the previous mini solar system, and (but I don't know at what range) I lost sensor contact with the others again. That really piqued our interest (to the point where my friend contacted his friend who had told him about the system, and this person headed over), and we have now started checking out this mini system. At least 1 planet can be landed on, and we all have Horizons and SRVs.

Next time I am in-game I intend (with the permission of the others) to fire up a Private Group, so we can explore in peace while still working together. I will (with permission of the team leader) post the results here. All 4 of us are now in-game 'friends' so that we can continue working together on this.

Unless this is a fault, it might suggest that looking for anomalies would be a team effort (to help triangulate things such as this potential 'blanketing field').

Fly safe, and see you out amongst the stars.
 
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MiiC

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Your sensor has a max range. You couldn't "see" your wing mates because you were out of this range.
 
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Thetele

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As far as i know there is sensor range limit in sc. So you can´t see players/npc far away from you in same system. Usually distance in systems are low enough so that you can see all traffic but if system have star far away each other you can´t see players on other star. In most systems you won´t see this, but in some for example player entering alpha centaur can´t see player in sensor who is sc near hutton orbital in same instance.
 

Hell Razor5543

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Thetele said:
As far as i know there is sensor range limit in sc. So you can´t see players/npc far away from you in same system. Usually distance in systems are low enough so that you can see all traffic but if system have star far away each other you can´t see players on other star. In most systems you won´t see this, but in some for example player entering alpha centaur can´t see player in sensor who is sc near hutton orbital in same instance.
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Possible, but I doubt it. IIRC we were within what I believe to be normal sensor capabilities. I know that my ship has A Rated equipment (all of my ships do), including the sensors. If anybody does know what the maximum sensor range is in SC please let me know.
 
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Voz

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What I read was that he could see his friends at a distance and they vanished as he got nearer. That can't then be going out of range.
It can still be a bug of course.
 

Hell Razor5543

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The main reason I doubt sensor range is an issue is that when I approached the mini solar system in question for the first time the other 2 Commanders (the last Commander was not yet in the system, as we had not yet discovered this anomaly and let him know) were off to my right (on the sensor disk), roughly at my 3 o'clock position. When I left that system, and headed off to the next one, they were (when they re-appeared) at my 9 o'clock position, and when I headed back in again they were back at the 3 o'clock position, and had started heading my way (so, if anything, the range was coming down).
 
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The Tick

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Hell Razor5543 said:
While I and 3 friends were exploring a system (which I am NOT going to divulge, for obvious reasons) I found that they disappeared from my sensors (although the Wing Indicators were still active). At first I thought this was an instancing issue, but when I moved away from my current location by a hundred or so LS they showed back up again. I turned around, headed back in, and the same happened. It would appear that I was within range of some form of blanketing field. Once they got close enough my wingmen could see me on the sensors again. Suffice to say, this has piqued our interest, and we are all checking out this point in space.

I would point out (although the more astute of you will worked this out) that, had we not been in a wing, this would not have been obvious. It would appear that co-operation is the watchword here.
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Do you think this is a bug, or any hint towards an in game secret? Otherwise I don't really get your point.
Losing a wing mate from your sensors in SC is a well known 'issue'. But I think this is partly intended. At one stage, FDev introduced a 1000 Ls limit to POIs being visible in SC. That's why it's now quite a challenge to find the Voyager probes in Sol.
 

Hell Razor5543

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I called this thread "Possible Useful Information" because I did not know if it WAS interesting, or just a red herring. There are other pertinent details, but for safety reasons I will NOT divulge them here, and certainly not without the permission of the person who let us know of this system (and they are part of the team exploring the system). However, my previous post on this thread could indicate range was NOT the cause.
 

Spaceburger

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Do you think the signal loss in SC could be in any way linked to the "Carrier signal compromised"? Or perhaps that's just a news bulletin related thing..
It certainly didn't seem to be range related.
I had been looking around the system for a couple of days on my own without seeing anything too unusual until the SC anomaly with other CMDRs in the area. Maybe it could suggest that being with other people nearby might trigger events or unusual things that just one lone pilot may miss completely.

Edit: Just saw you have linked this post already in the Carrier compromised thread, razor, good thinking :p
 
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Sgt.Barnes

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Have you considered that the redonkulas amount of radiation & magnetic fields given off by stars at close range could swamp the scanner signal. FD has said that they have tried to include true astrophysics in the game as much as possible. This could be physics they have included ? It would be an interesting mechanic to use for sneaking around. Reminds me of this :cool:

[video=youtube;gttQsYnx4X0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gttQsYnx4X0[/video]
 

Hell Razor5543

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There are local factors that could have caused this sensor issue, but I doubt range is one of them. IIRC I have seen Commanders on sensors in excess of 10,000ls. The system we are investigating is smaller than that.

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Sgt.Barnes said:
Have you considered that the redonkulas amount of radiation & magnetic fields given off by stars at close range could swamp the scanner signal. FD has said that they have tried to include true astrophysics in the game as much as possible. This could be physics they have included ? It would be an interesting mechanic to use for sneaking around. Reminds me of this :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gttQsYnx4X0
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I have this (and the previous Star Trek film) on DVD. One thing that made me laugh a LOT is that the Enterprise makes use of barcode scanners! Don't believe me? Look up Symbol M2007 barcode scanner, and then compare the results against the devices on the main bridge desk (starting 5 seconds into that clip). If you know what to look for, you will see other barcode scanners scattered around the Federation ships.

http://www.barcodetraders.com/ois/ois_images/symbol_m2007_i425_scanner.jpg
 
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Hell Razor5543

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I have just found that, in Super Cruise, my A rated sensors have a range of about 4,000ls. When we checked at this location, we lost each other at about 1,600ls apart.
 
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