Potential real-life warp drives, etc.

Xaevryn

Xaevryn
Been reading up on this, and obviously they are still strictly theories.

But...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_starship

Obviously there are quite a few problems with these, though some labs are already reporting that they have successfully created micro black holes (dunno if that's true, just saying what I've heard).

How metal is that? to have a starship powered and driven by a BLACK HOLE. One that we created. And if you had a starship say, powered by a black hole and then used that power source to fuel an Alcubierre drive... my mind boggles at the thought. Though one of the problems with the Alcubierre drive is that, apparently, matter will build up on the front edge of the bubble (gases, micro meteoroids, etc.) and when the ship drops out of warp, this collection of mass will continue on at near or above light speed. Which would be absolutely devastating to anything in front of the blast.

Still, we're on the right track, we're thinking and theorizing like we should be.
 

Jason Trask

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were developing ion drives too TIE fighters anybody *makes tie noises*

also they've said warp speed is impossible cause hydrogen would burn and collide with us ,I think theres ways around that we could potentally work on but chances are there probably government only secrets
 

4fast5me

4fast5me
Whatever is built up on the bubble continuing of at near light speed is hardly a problem. We're traveling at light speed right now. Potentially many times the speed of light depending on your reference frame.

That's the thing with relativity. It all depends on perspective.

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Jason Trask said:
were developing ion drives too TIE fighters anybody *makes tie noises*

also they've said warp speed is impossible cause hydrogen would burn and collide with us ,I think theres ways around that we could potentally work on but chances are there probably government only secrets
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Ion drives are already a thing. They're not quite what you think they are... Impressive sure.. but not for the same reasons.
 

Jason Trask

J
4fast5me said:
Whatever is built up on the bubble continuing of at near light speed is hardly a problem. We're traveling at light speed right now. Potentially many times the speed of light depending on your reference frame.

That's the thing with relativity. It all depends on perspective.
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also true and ive heard people say that if we were to get FTL travel,"pinching space" (much like the FSD'S do) is probably our goal another example is slipspace from halo the core opens a 'tunnel' normal engines propel the ship through it
 

EponymousCowherd

EponymousCowherd
Wasn't it a Star Trek thing that Romulan ships are powered by black holes?

There are, actually some pretty amazing developments in spacecraft going on right now. SpaceX's reusable launcher is a reality and Reaction Engines' "Sabre" engine and Skylon spacecraft are well on the way.
 

Loki TDD

Loki TDD
Seem to recall an episode of the universe talking about the warp bubble idea (alcubierre drive) one of the potential problems discussed was that the ship in the bubble would not be able to influence the bubble once in the bubble, haven't been through the full article you posted but did they touch upon that at all?

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EponymousCowherd said:
Wasn't it a Star Trek thing that Romulan ships are powered by black holes?

There are, actually some pretty amazing developments in spacecraft going on right now. SpaceX's reusable launcher is a reality and Reaction Engines' "Sabre" engine and Skylon spacecraft are well on the way.
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you are correct sir, romulans use artificial singularities to power their ships or at least they did according to the next generation
 

4fast5me

4fast5me
EponymousCowherd said:
Wasn't it a Star Trek thing that Romulan ships are powered by black holes?

There are, actually some pretty amazing developments in spacecraft going on right now. SpaceX's reusable launcher is a reality and Reaction Engines' "Sabre" engine and Skylon spacecraft are well on the way.
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I had almost completely forgot about the Sabre engine being in development. Is it still receiving funding? It's been years since I last heard anything.
 

Loki TDD

Loki TDD
I can't find the article again but iflscience.com had one up on fb yesterday about china testing the feasibility of a space elevator
 

Loki TDD

Loki TDD
4fast5me said:
Not going to happen.
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The science is sound problem is no one can currently make a length of carbon nanotube that has the strength of its constituent atoms, once that has been figured out we would have to be monumentally idiotic as a species to not pursue the technology. There is actually a documentary on netflix (uk version anyway) about the development of the space elevator idea
 

4fast5me

4fast5me
Loki TDD said:
The science is sound problem is no one can currently make a length of carbon nanotube that has the strength of its constituent atoms, once that has been figured out we would have to be monumentally idiotic as a species to not pursue the technology. There is actually a documentary on netflix (uk version anyway) about the development of the space elevator idea
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The science is fine. The practicality of it is not for many reasons.

Not least of all getting a craft into the required geostationary orbit and getting the cable to and from the craft. Or even the risk of any debris damaging and/or severing the cable resulting in total failure of the system as a whole and potential damage to the anchor craft.


You'll see actual Coriolis style stations long before you see a space elevator.
 

Loki TDD

Loki TDD
4fast5me said:
The science is fine. The practicality of it is not for many reasons.

Not least of all getting a craft into the required geostationary orbit and getting the cable to and from the craft. Or even the risk of any debris damaging and/or severing the cable resulting in total failure of the system as a whole and potential damage to the anchor craft.



You'll see actual Coriolis style stations long before you see a space elevator.
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Not at the current cost of putting material into orbit we wont
 

tafkabb

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Getting a human up to light speed and back down to stationary without ending up as a big flat mess at the back of the cockpit due to G-forces means the acceleration would have to be so slow it would take a lifetime.
We'll probably have to transfer our intelligence into an electronic system and send that. We're just too fragile.
 

Jason Trask

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Loki TDD said:
Not at the current cost of putting material into orbit we wont
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hence some type of elevator like system chances are though if we get it that large and strong (think the space elevator from halo 5 guardians) I don't really think weve got anything big enough to damage it short of weapons
 

Loki TDD

Loki TDD
Cyberguts said:
All this talk of Space Elevators reminds me of Arthur Chris Clarke 3001 book
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Also "the fountains of paradise" by asimov

Jason Trask said:
hence some type of elevator like system chances are though if we get it that large and strong (think the space elevator from halo 5 guardians) I don't really think weve got anything big enough to damage it short of weapons
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that's what i've been saying though

BongoBaggins said:
Yeah I've read something somewhere that for a steel space elevator to work, it would have to be 10,000 miles across at the top just to support its own weight [woah]
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Carbon nanotubing carbon atoms arranged into hexagonal tubes because the atoms are hexagonal in shape the atomic bonds are some of the strongest discovered, as an example diamonds are carbon molecules arranged in a cube and we all know diamonds are harder than Chuck Norris. There is just no efficient way to produce the tubing to a consistent standard yet.

If your interested the documentary on netflix is called "sky line"
 
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