Power Play - What difference does being number one make?
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Is that just for people who are pledge to him or for everyone?
Edit - Hang on a tick. So weeks of battling and fortifying and stuff without trading will give Eddie's area 20% more money? Where as not bothering with it will give you the time to trade and make more with less effort?
So Lardy Eddie (that;'s what we call him down the gentlemans club.. when he's eating all the pies) is at 3 now. Do you recokon the effort in time and resources was worth a 5% trade increase? Was it 5% more effort. Like I say, I have no idea at all.
Edit - Hang on a tick. So weeks of battling and fortifying and stuff without trading will give Eddie's area 20% more money? Where as not bothering with it will give you the time to trade and make more with less effort?
So Lardy Eddie (that;'s what we call him down the gentlemans club.. when he's eating all the pies) is at 3 now. Do you recokon the effort in time and resources was worth a 5% trade increase? Was it 5% more effort. Like I say, I have no idea at all.
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Just pledges I believe Ben. Join Us!
One of us, one of us, one of us....
Yeah I think each faction gets a bonus for being ranked one depending on what the bonuses are. Check out rank 2 of Hudson on his "Pledge Screen" for an example.
Gooble Gobble One of Us
Just wondering is the pay off of 5 percent in this case worth what seems to be a lot of hassle instead of just spending 5 percent longer trading?
Gooble Gobble One of Us
Just wondering is the pay off of 5 percent in this case worth what seems to be a lot of hassle instead of just spending 5 percent longer trading?
I stopped participating in PP, but am still pledged to A Lavigney -Duval.
I have been raking in huge bounty hunt and warzone combat bonuses for three weeks now.
It is extremely profitable for me.
For the trading powers, it's often possible to work fortification merits into a trade route. That makes it easy to get at lest rank 2 in your power for only 100 merits, then you get the 5/10/15/20% bonus on all of your trading for the rest of the week. For the time spent grinding merits to be profitable you have to haul 1000 tons per week at 5% bonus (only 250 at 20%, that's literally one run if you have a big ship), if you haul more than that it's pure profit. And I think most traders do...
Same with bounty hunting, maintaining that 100 merits in a bounty hunting power takes less than an hour per week and gets a 20% (30/40/50% for power standing 3, 2, 1) bonus on all of your bounty hunting for the rest of the week. So if you bounty hunt for more than 5 hours per week, you're making a net profit.
Rank 5 probably isn't worth the grind but just getting rank 2 in your power can make your favorite activities more profitable in their space. Helping your power get into high galactic standing improves your bonuses even more.
Same with bounty hunting, maintaining that 100 merits in a bounty hunting power takes less than an hour per week and gets a 20% (30/40/50% for power standing 3, 2, 1) bonus on all of your bounty hunting for the rest of the week. So if you bounty hunt for more than 5 hours per week, you're making a net profit.
Rank 5 probably isn't worth the grind but just getting rank 2 in your power can make your favorite activities more profitable in their space. Helping your power get into high galactic standing improves your bonuses even more.
I think there is some disconnect here between what Ben is asking and what has been replied.
I don't think that the question was about merit ranks, but about the power's rank itself against the other powers. Whether it really matters.
And the answer to that, outside of RP, is none. It doesn't. And it's practically impossible to wipe out a power at the moment.
So if Antal is what suits you as an ethos, keep supporting him by all means. Whether you reach rank 5 on Antal with him being #9 or him being #1 makes no difference to your personal rewards.
I don't think that the question was about merit ranks, but about the power's rank itself against the other powers. Whether it really matters.
And the answer to that, outside of RP, is none. It doesn't. And it's practically impossible to wipe out a power at the moment.
So if Antal is what suits you as an ethos, keep supporting him by all means. Whether you reach rank 5 on Antal with him being #9 or him being #1 makes no difference to your personal rewards.
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There is actually a boost to 1 of the benefits for being the top 3. I have no idea what gets boosted though as even though my faction is no. 1, I am only in it for the shields.
Hudson's bonus for No.1 was pretty good as a Bounty Hunter, 50% extra but only if you like that kinda thing.
It's not the most useful when actually taking part in PP though, since a lot of the work revolves around shuttling supplies about the place.
You can get nice runs of Kill "x" Pirates and Assassination missions though when travelling around but you can kinda forget about PP very easily while doing so.
You can get it at tier 2 (100 merits).
If you get to tier 5, it gets to 100% in controlled and exploited systems.
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Join President Hudson and liberate the galaxy with burning Federal justice! President Hudson gets 20% extra bounty payoffs at level 2, scaling to 30/40/50% when he's in the top 3. If you get yourself to level 5 with him, you get another 100% bounty bonus that I'm pretty sure stacks (or at least I don't see any reason why it shouldn't, any Level 5 Hudson supporters here who can confirm or deny?). He was rank 1 one cycle, it was pretty sweet.
"I'm President Hudson. Vote for me if you want to live."
The Anime Princess' level 2 is +10% influence effect, going up to 15/20/25% when she's in the top 3. Yay if you want to mess around with minor faction civil wars I guess? Really her main advantages in PP are the Prismatic Shield, the inertia of a huge population base, and an extremely sheltered position in space where being completely surrounded by other Imperial powers allows her to expand completely free of opposition.
And of course, realistically if you just want to min-max your RoI you should probably go ALD. >_> The Imperial Hammer is rather easily a better weapon than the Pacifier (the former being a multi-shot railgun, the latter being a nerfed fragment cannon), she gets exactly the same level 2 and level 5 bonuses, and her huge population combined with a location nearly as sheltered as Aisling's will make it very easy for her to sit in the top 3 consistently. Plus unlike Hudson her ethos bonuses actually match her major faction's government types, so she can fortify more easily.
Really between the skewed population metrics and their extremely safe geography (astrography?), the only realistic threat to Aisling's and ALD's hegemony in the top two slots is their own supporters' incompetence (expanding into poor systems until their overhead causes them to implode). But if experience is any indication FD will just bail them out every time that happens, so they're perfectly safe.
Edit: Oh I almost forgot, ALD also increases bounty payoffs in all her Controlled/Exploited systems by 20% even for non-pledges. This of course stacks with her level 2/5 bonuses. So yeah if you want to maximize RoI on bounties ALD is where it's at. If you want to be cool and liberate the galaxy with high-explosive freedom, Hudson gives similar bonuses but you just won't get that extra 20% baseline and won't enjoy being in the top 3 as often.
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Maybe you're right. I'll double check later.
But I'll still urge people to join what fits their RP most. We do need some more story investment from the community.
I see, thanks for the info. I can kinda guess it sucks because even on her subreddit almost nobody talks about having any benefit from being no. 1.
I do not believe that to be true
For A Lavigny Duval at least it matters which rank she is.
The higher her rank the bigger the bonuses I get for Bounty Hunting and Warzone combat.
From the official Power screen:
Bounties handed in at controlled/exploited systems are increased to 20%, increasing to 30/40/50% at galactic power standing levels 3/2/1 respectively.
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I stand corrected.