Powerplay salary question? >1500 merits = 500,000CR salary? Huh?
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salary works as it does IRL, you need to work a week at your new rating before you get paid for a weeks work at that rating. Earning enough merits last week to reach rating 4 this week does not mean you have earned 5M credits for last weeks work, your weren't rating 4 then, your only rating 4 now.
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Yeah, you earn credits for your previous week's status.
So you will get your 5mil in 1 weeks time.
So you will get your 5mil in 1 weeks time.
Ahhh! That makes sense... So if I did nothing this week at all, because I brought over 1663 today, I will get 5mCR next Thursday?
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Makes sense! Ta!
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exactly, it is a bit strange since they give you your rating 4 nominations etc a week before your wage, but it does kinda make sense, for a change :-D
Hang on....
So last night I think I had 1663 Merits? Reflected by that value being shown as "carried over from last week"?
But surely the total I had needs all the 50% weekly reduction calcs being applied to it? ie: If I had 1663, depending on how that was made up from the previous weeks, it should be substantially less?
ie: I don't think I had 2 thousand odd last night such that 1663 is the outcome after all the 50% reductions?
So last night I think I had 1663 Merits? Reflected by that value being shown as "carried over from last week"?
But surely the total I had needs all the 50% weekly reduction calcs being applied to it? ie: If I had 1663, depending on how that was made up from the previous weeks, it should be substantially less?
ie: I don't think I had 2 thousand odd last night such that 1663 is the outcome after all the 50% reductions?
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:-D they cant even get their own decay system correct. Its is SUPPOSED to be as you say, according to the manual. BUT, it seems (from the last 2 cycles) that your merits aren't decaying until the 2nd week. So, everything you earned last cycle has carried over at 100%, and next week is when they will first be decayed by 50%, completely different to what the manual states, but surely you have come to expect this nonsense from FD by now. And their lack of confirmation and clarity is appalling, they are obviously caring less and less about the current players, as they have our cash already.
I haven't taken part yet, but I've read a lot of threads about the maths of merit carry-over, and the results seem...somewhat mixed, from what I can tell! Some people have apparently seen 100% carry-over, others, a number that can't be reconciled with the 12.5%, 25%, 50% weekly total contributions.
Has there been an official comment on this yet? It does seem bonkers that we're still getting threads about confusing merit carry-over rules and strange totals, 3 weeks after release, without any sort of clarification from FD. Is it bugged? Is this how it's supposed to work? If the latter, the manual needs some serious work!
Ok this is the way I see it based on comments. Assume you earn 1000 merits per week.
Week 1: 0 merits in the bank, +1000 merits earned.
Week 1 rewards = rank 1 during week 1 = 1000cr
Week 2: 1000 merits in the bank, + 1000 merits earned.
Week 2 rewards = Rank 3 during week 2 = 500Kcr
Week 3: 1500 merits in the bank (50% loss on the week 1), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 3 rewards = Rank 4 during week 3 = 5Mil cr
Week 4: 1750merits in the bank (75% loss on week 1, 50% loss on the week 2), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 4 rewards = Rank 4 during week 4 = 5Mil cr
Week 5: 2375 merits in the bank (87.5% loss on week 1, 75% loss on the week 2, 50% loss on week 3), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 5 rewards = Rank 4 during week 5 = 5Mil cr
Week 6: 2375 merits in the bank (100% loss on week 1, 87.5% loss on the week 2, 75% loss on week 3, 50% loss on week 4), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 6 rewards = Rank 4 during week 6 = 5Mil cr
So far I have not seen anything to disprove this. Basically they look at the last week's rank to work out your salary and the decay is weekly so the week 1 of 1000 credits becomes 500, 250 and 125 in the 3 weeks after its applied.
Week 1: 0 merits in the bank, +1000 merits earned.
Week 1 rewards = rank 1 during week 1 = 1000cr
Week 2: 1000 merits in the bank, + 1000 merits earned.
Week 2 rewards = Rank 3 during week 2 = 500Kcr
Week 3: 1500 merits in the bank (50% loss on the week 1), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 3 rewards = Rank 4 during week 3 = 5Mil cr
Week 4: 1750merits in the bank (75% loss on week 1, 50% loss on the week 2), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 4 rewards = Rank 4 during week 4 = 5Mil cr
Week 5: 2375 merits in the bank (87.5% loss on week 1, 75% loss on the week 2, 50% loss on week 3), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 5 rewards = Rank 4 during week 5 = 5Mil cr
Week 6: 2375 merits in the bank (100% loss on week 1, 87.5% loss on the week 2, 75% loss on week 3, 50% loss on week 4), + 1000 merits earned.
Week 6 rewards = Rank 4 during week 6 = 5Mil cr
So far I have not seen anything to disprove this. Basically they look at the last week's rank to work out your salary and the decay is weekly so the week 1 of 1000 credits becomes 500, 250 and 125 in the 3 weeks after its applied.
This weeks numbers confirm:
Carried over = (earned last week) + (earned week before)/2 + (earned week before that)/4
There may also be a (earned week even before that)/8 term, we'll have to wait 'till next week to see.
Carried over = (earned last week) + (earned week before)/2 + (earned week before that)/4
There may also be a (earned week even before that)/8 term, we'll have to wait 'till next week to see.
I think you may have an error in your maths. Counting towards salary in week 6 you ought to have 1000 + 500 + 250 + 125 + 62 + 31 = 1968. In week 3 you should have 1000 + 500 = 1500. Or if you are including the current week it should be 2968 and 2500 respectively. Basically after a prolonged period working at a constant rate your historical total will be about double your weekly average.
It does seem very counter intuitive that salary is paid on your ranking at the end of the previous cycle, rather than the one just finished.
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Yeah, my calculations come from: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=152185
"Your merit total from the previous cycle is halved then added to your current cycle value. After two cycles, its value is halved again before being added. After three cycles, the value is halved once more. After four cycles the value is no longer added."
This seems to clear it up in my mind, so hopefully it will help others...
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Wk1 Wk2 Wk3 Wk4 Wk5 Wk6
"Merits carried forwards" 0 3480 5220 6090 6525 6525
"Merits earned this week" 3480 3480 3480 3480 3480 3480
[B]End of week Salary/Modules based on -na- 3480(wk1) 7680(wk2) 9060(wk3) 9930(wk4) 10005(wk5)
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