PP LYR fast track question

[racer1]

So I want to hit rank 5 with LYR so I can triple my exploration profits.

Is there a quick way to say, "just fill my hold with the damn equipment" or do I really have to click fast track, plus the other associated clicks 75 times just to fill my T9?

So I'll have to click fast track 1000 times, to get the bonus. I don't think I can do it lol.

 

[Leadfoot]

If that's power play you're referencing, yes, you have to select the "fast track" first. I believe it charges you 150,000 extra credits to do this, right? I did that myself for a while until I found out how much it was costing me for not as much profit. Hitting the button is what makes you AWARE of how much hitting it is costing you. Otherwise people come here with a handfuls of salt complaining about how much hitting that "fast track" button cost them and they didn't know, etc.

Of course, if you've got a one or two billion in the bank, hitting "fast track" won't be a problem.

 

[racer1]

The thing I'm getting at is that it takes so long to fast track, like 5 minutes of clicking to fill my hold.

I created a keyboard macro, it still takes 4 minutes but at least I only have press one button 75 times per load instead of like 5 or 6 clicks times 75...

 

[Alex Brentnall]

iirc it takes about 100mil to get what you need for rank 5 in a week, you get 60mil (ish) back from your weekly powerplay earnings as it decays through the ranks. Yes you have to press it so many times for no good reason and yes it will cost you dearly in time, credits and patience. Took me about 20ish trips in my Conda back when I did it, generally it's worth it if you have more than 150mil of data to sell (what is these days pretty easy to do) as that +200% will give you +300mil profit meaning the lost 40mil isn't as important.
My trip gave me a total of 760mil after the bonus, but this was before the payout increase with 3.1(?).


Good going on the macro, definitely the way forwards, I wish they could have a faster fast track

 

[racer1]

Thanks, good to hear I haven't missed anything obvious

I compared Robigo earning to my expected payout and it still makes sense to go LYR lol.

Even selling the stuff takes like a minute...

 

[Quantis Trap]

I find it's much easier and much more interesting (relatively speaking) to earn the PP merits with combat. I can earn an average of 1000-1500 merits an hour (sometimes even faster when I wing up) with combat and don't pay ~50 million credits for fast tracking while being bored to death that way.

I've done it both ways though and understand if people just want to pay. I agree it should be much easier if you just want to pay and get the merits.

Hopefully the future PP changes will be remove or positively change a bunch of this!

 

[Stealthie]

Beats me why you can't just take as many leaflets (or whatever) as you want and then you just get a total which you can accept or reject, just like buying commodities from the market.

The procedure for buying PP stuff just seems like it's deliberately designed to clunky, slow, fiddly and a nuisance.

 

[racer1]

I probably would do combat next time. My cmdr who has the data doesn't really have an ultra safe combat ship available.

9/14 runs completed...

 

[Leadfoot]

Beats me why you can't just take as many leaflets (or whatever) as you want and then you just get a total which you can accept or reject, just like buying commodities from the market.

The procedure for buying PP stuff just seems like it's deliberately designed to clunky, slow, fiddly and a nuisance.

So that people in an anaconda or Type-9 just can't take on load after load after load of leaflets (or whatever) and essentially be done with it in just one day (like I would do in my anaconda with 432 tons of cargo space in it).

I find it's much easier and much more interesting (relatively speaking) to earn the PP merits with combat.

BTW, is that combat just looking for enemies in your territory or is that combat in CZ's between two factions? Or both?

 

[Stealthie]

So that people in an anaconda or Type-9 just can't take on load after load after load of leaflets (or whatever) and essentially be done with it in just one day (like I would do in my anaconda with 432 tons of cargo space in it).

But... why?

People who're going to do that are going to do it anyway, either manually or simply by spending 5 minutes figuring out how to set up a keyboard macro.

Nobody who was prepared to fast-track a heap of stuff, either for the PP modules or just for PP in general, is going to be deterred just because the UI is crap and forces the player to navigate around a clumsy menu system.

It's just a bottom-of-the-barrel attempt to needlessly hinder the player.

 

[racer1]

But... why?

People who're going to do that are going to do it anyway, either manually or simply by spending 5 minutes figuring out how to set up a keyboard macro.

Nobody who was prepared to fast-track a heap of stuff, either for the PP modules or just for PP in general, is going to be deterred just because the UI is crap and forces the player to navigate around a clumsy menu system.

It's just a bottom-of-the-barrel attempt to needlessly hinder the player.

I agree cmdr.

Better off just letting us buy what we want but have a time limit before you can restock, rather than adding a 10000 mouse click-a-thon. If there's a meta, people will still do it even if it is a terrible experience.

 

[Suvi Anwar]

It's just a bottom-of-the-barrel attempt to needlessly hinder the player.

This is exactly why. There is such a lack of real content that they use things like this to fill play time.

 

[Alex Brentnall]

To be honest it's the thing that made me consider ranking up over a 2 week period as the drop amount per 30 minutes increases from 10 to 15 to 20 to 25 for ranks 1-4.

My original plan was to arrive back Wednesday AM, grind out 750 merits for rank 3 and let the server tick over to thursday where I'd find it twice as easy to get the remaining 9575 merits i'd need to rank 5 the week after. In the end I arrived back Thursday due to a delay so did it all in one week.

 

[Allitnil]

So that people in an anaconda or Type-9 just can't take on load after load after load of leaflets (or whatever) and essentially be done with it in just one day (like I would do in my anaconda with 432 tons of cargo space in it).

Except that you can. I've taken advantage of the LYR bonus twice and both times arrived back in the Bubble around midday Weds and ground out the merits in time for the Thurs morning tick over. First time I even did it without using any macros and, yes, it was excruciating! (took a lot of alcohol to make it bearable...)

If the devs really wanted to stop their customers from doing something in a short space of time then that should be part of the design, eg only being able to go from level 1 to level 2 to level 3 etc a week at a time. A poorly designed UI should never be used as some sort of gatekeeper.

 

[Macros Black]

Combat is an alternative, how fast it is, is up to your combat skills.

Find an enemy of LYR, find system under 'Expansion'. Join the system forces in a suitable signal source, kill a thousand (1000) enemy ships. Bring combat ship (and friends).

PS: Fighters flown by your npc pilot are broken after the update.
PPS: Remember to cash in the bounties. (I forgot once).

 

[mikekim]

Like Allitnil, I did this just after my trip back from Beagle point...
Got 3.7bn + credits after the 200% bonus..

The lvl 5 delivery mission took about 4.5 hours to complete before the Thursday tick..

 

[Red Anders]

Beats me why you can't just take as many leaflets (or whatever) as you want and then you just get a total which you can accept or reject, just like buying commodities from the market.

The procedure for buying PP stuff just seems like it's deliberately designed to clunky, slow, fiddly and a nuisance.

I'm still sufficiently astonished about the primary mechanism by which intergalactic powerbroking is carried out in 3304 being delivering leaflets that I've simply never got past it.

 

[Leadfoot]

I'm still sufficiently astonished about the primary mechanism by which intergalactic powerbroking is carried out in 3304 being delivering leaflets that I've simply never got past it.

The leaflets are infused with a drug that causes the person handling it to become very accepting of the information on the leaflet. In fact I've got one guy who waits at the landing pad each week, hands shaking, wanting to know if I have any new information for him to deliver. He seems very happy each time I hand him a package or two of those things. Lucky for me I wear gloves.

 

[Red Anders]

The leaflets are infused with a drug that causes the person handling it to become very accepting of the information on the leaflet. In fact I've got one guy who waits at the landing pad each week, hands shaking, wanting to know if I have any new information for him to deliver. He seems very happy each time I hand him a package or two of those things. Lucky for me I wear gloves.

Ahhhh.

*taps nose* *winks*

 

[Stealthie]

I'm still sufficiently astonished about the primary mechanism by which intergalactic powerbroking is carried out in 3304 being delivering leaflets that I've simply never got past it.

Heh,

Does demonstrate a real issue, though, doesn't it?

How much harder would it have been to create a system whereby you're transporting any of, say, half a dozen more plausible things (weapons, bribes, contracts, diplomats, spies, supplies etc) and they'd have different requirements, risks and rewards?

The whole "leaflets" thing just reeks of "placeholder" that never actually evolved into anything more substantial.