Pros and cons of Odyssey from experts please

Odyssey:
1. Ground combat focused DLC, with possibility to on-foot exploring.
2 .SCO drive eats a lot of fuel so it is not possible to use it for longer time but usually short burst is sufficient.
3. No ability to exit ship in space (unless inside station), apply fixes (like patching canopy), moving inside ship (except limited FC internal space).
4. Serious FPS drop on the same hardware when compared to horizon (both in space and on the ground).
5. Various missions for on-foot activity but sadly most of them require combat (although it can be avoided to some extent if You learn how to be hard to detect, but there is no active stealth mechanic present).
6. Long grind to fully upgrade suit but on the other hand there are only 3 types of them.
7. Odyssey has "live" BGS so all new events (like thargoid war) are only here.
8. New ranks of elite (like elite I, elite II, up to V).
9. New ships: right now only type-8 and python MKII

I had fun with suits upgrade process, learning how to get materials for that and unlock engineers too (I would recommend grinding mats in bubble then moving to colonia to unlock engineers and apply upgrades there), how to complete missions, etc.

I also like challenge to do missions without killing or being detected but sadly there is no actual stealth mechanic in game (that means things like cloaking device for me). All You can do is to learn how to lower chances of being detected.
 
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1. Ground combat focused DLC, with possibility to on-foot exploring.
Unless you go seeking out combat, you probably won't meet many hostile NPC-s on foot. Depends on mission and system--seems that doing salvage missions in a system where no anarchy faction (ie pirates and gangsters) is present has lower chance of hostiles.
2 .SCO drive eats a lot of fuel so it is not possible to use it for longer time but usually short burst is sufficient.
Yeah, these short bursts are all that is needed in 99% cases. Fuel consumption only becomes a problem with 100kls+ distances:p
3. No ability to exit ship in space (unless inside station), apply fixes (like patching canopy), moving inside ship (except limited FC internal space).
EVA-s and ad hoc ship repairs if you don't have an AFMU would be cool as hell(y)
4. Serious FPS drop on the same hardware when compared to horizon (both in space and on the ground).
OTOH, an entry midrange level card like RX 6600 or RTX 3060 can manage 60 FPS on FHD, possibly even at QHD. Even the positively antique AMD Polaris and GTX 1000 series manage playable FHD frame rates. Upper midrange cards like RX 7800 XT (which I have) can easily do 100+ FPS at QHD plus 1.25x supersampling at highest settings. Most of the times you're seeing frame rate drops it's CPU limitations in on-foot conflict zones, but AMD 5700X3D is cheap and powerful enough for most situations. People should retire their 750Ti-s and 3770K-s already:)
5. Various missions for on-foot activity but sadly most of them require combat (although it can be avoided to some extent if You learn how to be hard to detect, but there is no active stealth mechanic present).
Most really don't. Stealth missions and non-violent missions are, in fact, the majority. Salvage missions can have combat, but it depends on the location and if you want to avoid on-foot shootouts a pair of class 1 advanced missile racks allow you to nuke the site from orbit and grab the McGuffin in peace after the dust settles.
6. Long grind to fully upgrade suit but on the other hand there are only 3 types of them.
Not anymore! Material requirements are reduced significantly and mission payouts are now so good that you can get all what you need to upgrade a suit from grade 1 to grade 5 in a day without relogging or farming settlements. I've managed to collect nearly 100 manufacturing instructions and dozens of other stuffz like weapon components and -schematics since the Type 8 and engineering update.
7. Odyssey has "live" BGS so all new events (like thargoid war) are only here.
...and these events are glorious!
8. New ranks of elite (like elite I, elite II, up to V).
Moar swag is moar swag🤪
9. New ships: right now only type-8 and python MKII
Python MKII is just so damn good at its purpose it makes most other combat ships almost obsolete. Almost because luckily it's not OP and has limitations you have to work around. Still, it's either that or nerfhammer the FDL😉 Haven't got T8 myself but the cargo capacity is great, it's fast and is the only medium that can fit the universal limpet controller.
I also like challenge to do missions without killing or being detected but sadly there is no actual stealth mechanic in game (that means things like cloaking device for me). All You can do is to learn how to lower chances of being detected.
The stealth mechanics are pretty good--LOS detection, auditory detection, quite well balanced NPC patrol routes that allow the patient player to always slip through or take out their target where no-one will stumble upon. The only negative I find is that NPC-s don't react to players flashlight and at the same time have horrible light discipline--like, dudes, your flashlights can be seen literally from a mile away, there's a murderhobo sneaking around in your settlement and it never occurs to you to maybe, just maybe, turn your damn lights off so you don't give your position and movements away! Granted, most other modern stealth games have (borderline OP) hiding mechanics where you become basically invisible when you hide in a bush or something, but there are no bushes to hide in in Odyssey settlements so I don't know how Fdev could have implemented something like it without becoming completely silly (like, oh, I dunno, climbing under a cardboard box or something🙃). IMO magitec cloaking devices would be a cop-out and pose a logical problem of "why don't we have these on ships and SRV-s?". Some sort of active camo could be realistic, but it would also realistically only work at higher distances and wouldn't help sneaking inside buildings. And since near-invisible NPC-s would be annoying as hell they wouldn't have cloaking devices for gameplay reasons, raising the logical question of "why don't NPC-s have them?" because from pure logical standpoint they absolutely should use cloaking--and also, PvP balance.
 
Humble Bundle (steam keys) has EDO on sale for $9.74 Usd currently. So I just purchased it for one of my Steam Alts. Only one alt left to upgrade to Ody, and it's my Epic freebie account.

EDO is worth it currently, and it helps support Fdev. So if you do not feel like buying Arx for whatever reason, it is another way to support Fdev.
 
Humble Bundle (steam keys) has EDO on sale for $9.74 Usd currently. So I just purchased it for one of my Steam Alts. Only one alt left to upgrade to Ody, and it's my Epic freebie account.

EDO is worth it currently, and it helps support Fdev. So if you do not feel like buying Arx for whatever reason, it is another way to support Fdev.
Thanks for that!

I had recently set up a wish list for Odyssey on Steam and they said I would get an email notice when it went on discount. I bought Horizons through them a few years back and my copy is through their interface. Would buying from the other folks work with Steam? I only use the one game on my PC. So not a lot of recent gaming experience. I'm from the days of buying the software and having a disk to load in once I got home!
 
Steam will let you know when steam have it on sale. Steam most likely won't tell you when the Humble store has it on sale, as they would be a competitor.

Just search "Humble Elite Dangerous Odyssey", I added EDO to my cart, and paid via CC. After the transaction and emails, I went to the Humble store keys section of the humble account (you may need to set that up, if you do not already have one) and clicked show key, and copied that value and added it to my steam client, bottom left corner "+ Add Game". Steam then said new game added or something to that affect. So yes Humble sells valid steam keys.

You can also google how to purchase via Humble and add it to steam, full instructions are online.
 
Thanks for that!

I had recently set up a wish list for Odyssey on Steam and they said I would get an email notice when it went on discount. I bought Horizons through them a few years back and my copy is through their interface. Would buying from the other folks work with Steam? I only use the one game on my PC. So not a lot of recent gaming experience. I'm from the days of buying the software and having a disk to load in once I got home!
It's GBP 9,99 at FDev directly right now and there should not be a problem to connect that to Steam.
 
2 .SCO drive eats a lot of fuel so it is not possible to use it for longer time but usually short burst is sufficient.
7. Odyssey has "live" BGS so all new events (like thargoid war) are only here.
8. New ranks of elite (like elite I, elite II, up to V).
Those are available to live-Horizons players as well.
Only Thargoid Spire sites are located on atmospheric planets, hence limited to Odyssey.
 
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Con? Its a disaster since its release. UNTIL TODAY the "foot on the ground" stay THE SAME without a single relevant upgrade or improvement. No new missions, not a single lore happening on ground (only the endless Goid and boring superpower struggles), no relevant improvement in exobio or planet exploration: not interesting new discoveries, or lore mysteries, no exo-animals, not a single Biome on the planets, NOTHING. It's everything the same boring stuff SINCE THE BEGINNING.

That's it.
Spire sites beg to differ.

BTW; as a general point it's worth noting that the price of the expansion has been reduced to $14.99. So compared to release it is on perpetual sale and well worth the money IMO. Of course YMMV but you won't know until you give it a go, and for $15, that's not much of a barrier to entry IMO (again). o7
 
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Spire sites beg to differ.

BTW; as a general point it's worth noting that the price of the expansion has been reduced to $14.99. So compared to release it is on perpetual sale and well worth the money IMO. Of course YMMV but you won't know until you give it a go, and for $15, that's not much of a barrier to entry IMO (again). o7
Well, if the missions with revenants seem to have been removed, then they didn't seem to exist.
But I remember exactly that at the start there were no missions to protect containers.
 
Well, if the missions with revenants seem to have been removed, then they didn't seem to exist.

The missions aren't there but the revenants and their banshee friends can still be found at military bases in occupied systems. Very much so. Mapon has a few of those last time I looked.
 
The missions aren't there but the revenants and their banshee friends can still be found at military bases in occupied systems. Very much so. Mapon has a few of those last time I looked.
I know. I just answered the wrong person.
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Its a disaster since its release. UNTIL TODAY the "foot on the ground" stay THE SAME without a single relevant upgrade or improvement. No new missions,
 
One thing not mentioned is how beautiful and varied the landable planets are, compared to Horizons. Together with the Sco drives (and exobiology) these two alone transform exploration.

I haven't really done anything else Odyssey related, just a few restore missions to see onfoot stuff and finding level 3 suits and weapons to buy on random remote stations. Then went out exploring, which is now more fun.

For combat and Bgs I still play legacy Horizons, looks better and even handles better when FA off.
 
It will be interesting to see if FDev give us a dedicated SCO optimised exploration ship as one of the new ships this year. Exobiology exploration massively favours small ships because of the very limited suitable landing places in some areas.
 
It will be interesting to see if FDev give us a dedicated SCO optimised exploration ship as one of the new ships this year. Exobiology exploration massively favours small ships because of the very limited suitable landing places in some areas.
Did I understand you correctly, that no one will buy a ship like this after it appears
for 25,500 ARXs?
 
Did I understand you correctly, that no one will buy a ship like this after it appears
for 25,500 ARXs?
Claiming no one will do something in ED is setting yourself up for a fall for two reasons
  1. The player base is large and varied enough that there will be people that just do that.
  2. Someone on the forum will see the claim and do it to prove the claim is wrong.
A dedicated small SCO optimised exploration/exobiology ship would probably be less multi role than the DBX, if one was introduced.
 
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