Hardware & Technical PWC Electric power and the environment

[lysan]

So I want to do the best I can for the environment, without giving up my freedom or limiting my daily life.
Got a small dingy that use an outboard Electric motor, but it’s a small one and only useing it to fishing on the river. I also got a nice 2010 PWC Yamaha FX SHO for some long day cruising, this one gobbles fuel like an alcoholic on happy hour on a Wednesday noon.

So I thought that maybe it’s time to get a more environment friendly one! But no! They don’t exists or if they do it’s x2 the cost of a new one! Why don’t they make these in electric power? You got electric motorbikes but not electric water crafts, that’s weird, anyone know of a company that manufactures these and got a fair price tag on them?

 

[Chris Simon]

Well, as long as most of the electricity on the planet comes from coal plants, "saving the environment" by using electic motors is just for showing off, anyway.

 

[lysan]

Well, as long as most of the electricity on the planet comes from coal plants, "saving the environment" by using electic motors is just for showing off, anyway.

I can charge from solar at home

 

[starman]

So I want to do the best I can for the environment, without giving up my freedom or limiting my daily life.
Got a small dingy that use an outboard Electric motor, but it’s a small one and only useing it to fishing on the river. I also got a nice 2010 PWC Yamaha FX SHO for some long day cruising, this one gobbles fuel like an alcoholic on happy hour on a Wednesday noon.

So I thought that maybe it’s time to get a more environment friendly one! But no! They don’t exists or if they do it’s x2 the cost of a new one! Why don’t they make these in electric power? You got electric motorbikes but not electric water crafts, that’s weird, anyone know of a company that manufactures these and got a fair price tag on them?

Have you tried hugging a tree?
There has been a massive spike in world electrical consumption since the release of ED
Is reference to eco protest in London considered political?

 

[starman]

Have you tried hugging a tree?
There has been a massive spike in world electrical consumption since the release of ED

https://themindunleashed.com/2013/07/tree-hugging-now-scientifically.html

 

[lysan]

Have you tried hugging a tree?
There has been a massive spike in world electrical consumption since the release of ED
Is reference to eco protest in London considered political?

No that I didn't try, and I don't see the point why it would help? I like technology, and if there are some technology that would make
my day better i would try to use it. I make my own electricity, if I could just plug the PWC in and recharge it, i would not need to storage fuel, you see my point? it would be a win-win situation.

 

[starman]

No that I didn't try, and I don't see the point why it would help? I like technology, and if there are some technology that would make
my day better i would try to use it. I make my own electricity, if I could just plug the PWC in and recharge it, i would not need to storage fuel, you see my point? it would be a win-win situation.

https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Potato-Battery

Ok I understand. Like how Cigarette companies say they care about health by switching to Vape.

 

[Chris Simon]

No that I didn't try, and I don't see the point why it would help? I like technology, and if there are some technology that would make
my day better i would try to use it. I make my own electricity, if I could just plug the PWC in and recharge it, i would not need to storage fuel, you see my point? it would be a win-win situation.

I smell a DIY project!
Why don't you make your own electric engine?

 

[lysan]

I smell a DIY project!
Why don't you make your own electric engine?

For now the parts are just too expensive, I can buy a new PWC for the price of the parts needed.
So I guess I will just keep my old one as it's still as good as new, with 400 H on it.

 

[Shadowdancer]

So I thought that maybe it’s time to get a more environment friendly one! But no! They don’t exists or if they do it’s x2 the cost of a new one! Why don’t they make these in electric power? You got electric motorbikes but not electric water crafts, that’s weird, anyone know of a company that manufactures these and got a fair price tag on them?

Energy density and resilience.

You need a lot of energy to move a boat, what with moving all that water out of its way, and you need to store that somewhere. Batteries are heavy and their energy density sucks in every way imaginable, so you run into a cycle where more power available means more weight means more power required. It doesn't matter quite as much with road vehicles.

You also need something that can deal with water, and let's face it, people will use it in salt water. Have you seen what salt water does to electric systems? You can proof them reasonably, but it requires different materials and you can't expose anything you want to keep even to unfiltered airflow.

 

[Chris Simon]

For now the parts are just too expensive, I can buy a new PWC for the price of the parts needed.
So I guess I will just keep my old one as it's still as good as new, with 400 H on it.

Well, you can start browsing the internet. Just for the laughs, but maybe one day you're going to find some interesting motor and transmission (or a nice lathe to build your own).

 

[lysan]

Energy density and resilience.

You need a lot of energy to move a boat, what with moving all that water out of its way, and you need to store that somewhere. Batteries are heavy and their energy density sucks in every way imaginable, so you run into a cycle where more power available means more weight means more power required. It doesn't matter quite as much with road vehicles.

You also need something that can deal with water, and let's face it, people will use it in salt water. Have you seen what salt water does to electric systems? You can proof them reasonably, but it requires different materials and you can't expose anything you want to keep even to unfiltered airflow.

I know, use mine only on salt water, after each use I need to flush it and dry the engine compartment, then spray with silicone to protect it.

 

[lysan]

Well, you can start browsing the internet. Just for the laughs, but maybe one day you're going to find some interesting motor and transmission (or a nice lathe to build your own).

LOL nope would rather build a quadcopter that could carry me than a PWC on electric power.

 

[Chris Simon]

Energy density and resilience.

You need a lot of energy to move a boat, what with moving all that water out of its way, and you need to store that somewhere. Batteries are heavy and their energy density sucks in every way imaginable, so you run into a cycle where more power available means more weight means more power required. It doesn't matter quite as much with road vehicles.

You also need something that can deal with water, and let's face it, people will use it in salt water. Have you seen what salt water does to electric systems? You can proof them reasonably, but it requires different materials and you can't expose anything you want to keep even to unfiltered airflow.

As a matter of interest, I think it has been reasonably proven that you actually can't proof your systems against sea water. maintenance>proofing

LOL nope would rather build a quadcopter that could carry me than a PWC on electric power.

I've seen electric paramotors. Better than a huge drone when comes to efficiency.

 

[Shadowdancer]

As a matter of interest, I think it has been reasonably proven that you actually can't proof your systems against sea water. maintenance>proofing

As soon as it touches electrics anywhere current happens, you can't maintain fast enough :-D

 

[lysan]

As soon as it touches electrics anywhere current happens, you can't maintain fast enough :-D

True and saltwater is even worse, buuuut you can prevent to a certain point.

 

[starman]

Become vegan.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Wav

Nikola Powersports’ Wav is a fully-electric sit-down personal watercraft with sportbike ergonomics, storage, and an industry-leading infotainment system.

nikolamotor.com

 

[starman]

Help the environment check out https://www.ecosia.org/

 

[Manticore]

We're getting solar on our home. Electricity pricing is murderous..

Batteries for all applications, cars and home power storage for example, are getting more cost effective and efficicient but, as far as I'm concerned, the technoplogy is not anywhere near usable....... yet.