Python, to sell or not to sell...

sasani

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Ok so I have about 190mil in assets. My only ship is a Python, currently trade fitted.

I'm thinking I could be earning way more credits in an Anaconda.

I can either grind out another 25mil to be able to get a basic trade fit Anaconda and keep the hull of the Python after stripping out the modules.

Or I can sell up now and make the jump comfortably.

I can imagine I'd buy back my python later as a fully decked out PVE combat and mission running ship - especially for powerplay.

What do you guys think? would I really make loads more space bucks in an Anaconda - due to factors such as slower speed & not having access to platforms etc... and if so would I make up the 10% loss from selling my python more quickly in an Anaconda rather than grinding out 25 mil in my python?
 

Hell Razor5543

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It does depend on your trade route. I have one that earns me over 1,000cr per tonne, and I can normally haul 400T. I once did a solid hour trading (to see how much I could earn), and I earned 3.84Mcr.
 

Klab

Klab
Personally I would trade up & get the Anaconda. It can hold 452t with A4 shields, earning you 4-6m per hour depending on the route. 20 odd hours of trading nets you 100m, & theres your Python back if you choose to. I have the Conda for trade, Vulture for combat & Asp for exploring. All A-rated & mainly paid for by the Anaconda & it's trading.
 

andyraptor

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the only problem with large ship trading is that you kill a route quickly

keep the Python .... as well ... ... to fall back to medium pad stuff to let routes recover
 

Alex Brentnall

Alex Brentnall
As I approach late game I find im moving ever more towards lower re-buy prices and am trying to only buy ships/modules at a discount.

If you got the Python in the 15% Zaonce discount for the love of god do not sell the hull :D. If you didn't and its an ordinary Python then I'd sell it and re-buy once you get cash and founders world discount for that 10%..
 
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Sugarat

Sugarat
RES bounty hunt in the Python, will earn you more than trading, till you have enough to buy and kit out a 'conda for trading.
 

masopa

masopa
Once upon a time, there was a CG bonus which gave 16% discount on Annies and Pythons. I had a Python and enough cash/assets to trade it in for a Trade spec Anaconda (with the 16% discount). It was such a good bargain, I had to do it. I then proceeded to earn enough trading in the bare Annie and occasional BHing in my Vulture to buy back the Python hull and just keep it (again, benefiting from that temporary 16% discount).

To be honest, that's pretty much the only circumstance I'd sell a Python to buy an Anaconda: when there's a sale on. That includes Founders World discount I guess.

The Anaconda is great, but it opens up a whole new world of grind because of the cost of modules (if you think the Python's bad... just wait). For trading, I think it's the best ship out there, but the Python is not far behind and critically can land at outposts unlike a T7, T9 or Annie. For me, that makes it a more flexible trader unless you're willing to restrict your route selection to large pads.

Trade Anaconda + Combat Vulture covers every base except CZ (IMO). It's a great pairing, but you can get the Annie any time, so why not wait until you can keep the Python or have a discount?
 

Elgered

Elgered
I kept the python, bought a T9 for a few days, sold that, got me the Anaconda and ended in my now RES-Retrofitted Python again, having the Anaconda for whenever there is a trade-CG^^
 

callahan44

callahan44
I've just got my combat Python up to A-spec, but the credit grind to get an Anaconda up to a similar level just puts me off.
Only reason I'd want one is for the jump range to explore.
 

Schmack

Schmack
Sugarat said:
RES bounty hunt in the Python, will earn you more than trading, till you have enough to buy and kit out a 'conda for trading.
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True to an extent. I can make about 800K per round trip on a 1+ jump in my python in about 10 minutes or less. You'd be hard pressed to do that in a res site. Also, res sites are hit or miss. You get some high earning sites and you get some doldrums where you pop in and out and it's always the mosquitoes and flies, no big game. You'll spend a lot of time doing that but you'll have more fun. If I was going to keep doing that I would stick with the Vulture, much more effective, cheaper insurance and load out. True that a good Python pilot can do some damage but I can melt any res site NPC anaconda in no time in a Vulture while the Python takes about as much as it gives, due to it's broad hull.

So I think it's a question of why you play, is it for the smoothness of the Python? I think the Anaconda will be as fun, but insurance and cargo fees should be considered. Many if not most here have jumped to the next level prematurely and regretted it, having to suffer through nerve wracking trips with barely enough for insurance or not even that. I'd say grind it out more with the Python and switch up now and again if you have a Vulture just to keep you from getting burned out trading.

Oh, and you might consider selling your Python early if you plan on doing so to avoid the approaching 10% module depreciation.
 
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Tuub t Tute

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The Lakon 9 as a step stone is a real marmite experience. If you aren't ready for the reduction in maneuverability, shorter jump range and real trader focus, it can seem like a miserable grind. You sit and watch the credits doing the maths over again on exactly how quickly can you sell this thing, take the 10% hit and still have upgrade money plus cargo and insurance for the Conda.
 

Nereus

Nereus
I would keep it unless you have a decent trade route in mind, something that brings around 2.3-2.5k/ton per round trip.

The anaconda you can buy and outfit with that kind of money is pretty basic, and you will be stuck in a trading role until you make a lot more credits.

If trading os your thing, though, go for it. Get a max friendship drive, A shields (don't downgrade them), lots of shield boosters and a C power plant, all the rest D, lots of gimballed pulses. You will be pretty safe to trade anywhere.

Honestly, I would not touch the t9, it flies awful, has horrible range and is defenseless.
 

Valethar

Valethar
As much as I love my Python, I have to agree with many of the others here. Sell it, kit out your Anaconda, and let the good times (and credits!) roll. You'll be able to buy back the Python later, and the extra profits from the Anaconda will help you pay for the outfitting as well.

That's precisely what I did with my Clipper, when I bought the Python. Since then, I've made enough with the Python to have it completely kitted in A grade mods, and have also repurchased my Clipper. I'm well on the way to picking up an Anaconda, though this time around I'll keep the Python and avoid the loss on the hull and modules, especially since some of them were discounted from various CGs. The other benefit is that I'll keep the ability to use outposts should something come up (CG, good secondary route, etc...), that otherwise wouldn't be possible in the Anaconda.

If, however, you've done like I did and managed to get some decent prices on modules and/or the hull, you may want to consider just continuing the grind until you can get the Anaconda. The only person that can really make that call is you, you're the only person who can determine if it's worth the tradeoff.
 

jmp470

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Nereus said:
I would keep it unless you have a decent trade route in mind, something that brings around 2.3-2.5k/ton per round trip.

The anaconda you can buy and outfit with that kind of money is pretty basic, and you will be stuck in a trading role until you make a lot more credits.

If trading os your thing, though, go for it. Get a max friendship drive, A shields (don't downgrade them), lots of shield boosters and a C power plant, all the rest D, lots of gimballed pulses. You will be pretty safe to trade anywhere.

Honestly, I would not touch the t9, it flies awful, has horrible range and is defenseless.
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That's exactly what it is so fun to fly!!!! You feel its size. I have not flown the anaconda yet, but will one day! Until then, I will own my Type-9 and grow my fleet of ships, as I found a place I would like to hang my hat for 1.3 :)
 

sasani

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Thanks for all the tips...

I'm not sure about the t9 as I have read that the Conda will net more due to being able to get an extra round trip in per hour and that off sets the extra 50t cargo.

I think I'm going to take the plunge get the Conda.

I think that my Conda will end up remaining as a trader and I will end up getting a vulture for combat, ASP for exploring and buy back a python for missioning in powerplay.
 
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