Python vs type 7
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Not if you can afford a Python anyway. It still carries more (unless you go unshielded, and even then not much more) and obviously has all the other benefits of being the best damn all-rounder in the game.
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I guess my hang up with this is how can a medium hull built for multiple purposes hold more than a large hull purpose built for transporting..
generally, with state depending trading at 4100-6100 cr/t/profit a-b-a (medicines to outbreak systems, or trading between matching economies in boom for exampel) you don't need outpost access for bulktrading at all.
but for tradings missions, the medium pad capability of a pythin can't be beaten, at least when you are playing in a region of space with a lot of outposts in mission range around a boom system.
that's no longer true. python with shieldgenerator at optimal mass: 260t, t7 with shieldgenerator at optimal mass: 272 t.
but for tradings missions, the medium pad capability of a pythin can't be beaten, at least when you are playing in a region of space with a lot of outposts in mission range around a boom system.
that's no longer true. python with shieldgenerator at optimal mass: 260t, t7 with shieldgenerator at optimal mass: 272 t.
How is this even a question? A Python is the Disneyland monorail, a T-7 is the bus.
Completely agree its not intuitive! I used Dropship as cheap Pythonas it is medium hull and in the Type-7 price range as a hauler/passenger ship.
However when it comes to the Keelback replacement, the Type-7 beats the Dropship (fitness for role). This actually surprised me. I have a Python, so will use Type-7 to mine, and Python to collect and deliver for mining missions at outpost.
Typr-7 seems a bit light for a mimer to me (weapons wise), but we will see how it goes.
Edit: And no bnerfing the Python, I know people that never forgave FD for the nerf between beta version of Python and intial release, let alone most recent changes. You would have a Python riot on your hands!
Simon
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The way I've looked at it is the Python is a lot more expensive, it uses better engineering and tougher more expensive materials. The T7 uses cheaper materials and to make it space worthy it use more of them hence the size difference.
check out the ship size chart: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...gress-Complete-Full-Colour-ED-Ship-Size-Chart
type 7: 82*56*25= 115k m3 - maximum cargo: 304T
python: 88*58*18= 92k m3 - maximum cargo 292T
the type seven is only 25% bigger, while having 5% more cargo.
the reason why it can't fit on medium pads is because it is too high, not because it is "larger" (in fact it is less long and less wide than a python).
That still doesnt answer the question... compare it to modern day.. a humvee and a box truck might have roughly the same proportions but the humvee cannot carry as much...
Even at a 25% larger hull the type 7 should have way more than 5% more cargo... especially since it doesnt have hardpoints combat hull plating or any of the other space wasters that a combat ship like the python is bound to have.
That inconsistency bother me too...
I liked T7, the only reason that I prefer Python for trading is that Python can land on outposts.
T7 should have more cargo space, one slot 6 instead of 5 would help much.
I'll be the odd man out and say I like the T7 over the Python for just trading even most missions - large pad ones of course.
Having a quirky love affair with the T-series ships I don't find the Pythons ability to land on medium pads is a overly big advantage to be honest.
Having spent time in the 7, and it's big brother the 9, I find you can trade just as well on large pads only - just takes a very slight bit of extra research to find the right systems.
Being about 2 1/2 times cheaper then the Python (in my trade fits) combined with Lakon coolness make it a fine trader despite carrying identical cargo loads.
With that said I will whole heartedly agree that it's makes little game sense (or 34th century sense for that matter), considering all factors and the Lakon line-up for it to be designed .5 meters too tall for medium pads.
I will also say we should have "small pads only" in the game for certain specialized locations and that should be the T6's domain - again being just a bit too tall.
You see it on the landing holographs - the T7 and T6 are ridiculously small for the pads they have be on. Would a 34th century ship designer make such a obvious marketing mistake? I wouldn't think so.
Having a quirky love affair with the T-series ships I don't find the Pythons ability to land on medium pads is a overly big advantage to be honest.
Having spent time in the 7, and it's big brother the 9, I find you can trade just as well on large pads only - just takes a very slight bit of extra research to find the right systems.
Being about 2 1/2 times cheaper then the Python (in my trade fits) combined with Lakon coolness make it a fine trader despite carrying identical cargo loads.
With that said I will whole heartedly agree that it's makes little game sense (or 34th century sense for that matter), considering all factors and the Lakon line-up for it to be designed .5 meters too tall for medium pads.
I will also say we should have "small pads only" in the game for certain specialized locations and that should be the T6's domain - again being just a bit too tall.
You see it on the landing holographs - the T7 and T6 are ridiculously small for the pads they have be on. Would a 34th century ship designer make such a obvious marketing mistake? I wouldn't think so.
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If you are reffering to difference in price of the ships, I can tell that buying Python you pay for premium quality product that can be used to any job: trading vessel, exploration vessel, passenger long range vessel or deadly killing machine.
But T7 is only trading ship, bulk truck, just a frame for cargo with engines. I don't need much, a little 15-20% more cargo space. In present state its only purpose is to earn credits to buy Python.
nwm, I am already after T7
Dont get me wrong i loved my t7 and logged a good many ly on it... but after buying the python i just cant come up with a single viable reason to buy another type 7.... it just doesnt have any real edge over it... the scant 12 or cargo spots doesnt make or break anything and the lack of speed and everything else just does it in.
You are quite correct Cmdr!
On paper, and once you can afford a Python, the poor old 7 does not have much to recommend it. Besides Lakon coolness.
But I did say I was a bit odd in this regard!
Tbh I've never understood this obsession among the community for medium pad capability. Med pads are practically irrelevant if you are trucker and horizons owner, large pad capable ports dwarf the number of outposts ingame. The Python is an excellent multi purpose, for pure freight running the T7 excels.