Powerplay Question about exploited / controlled and uncontrolled systems

[MPL3D]

Hi all,

I have some doubts arising about Power Play.

As per available documentation,

Fact1 - Any uncontrolled system is a candidate to be a controlled system
Fact2 - When a system is controlled, systems in a 15 ly radius become exploited systems

Now let's see,

Question1 - How can it be that I find uncontrolled systems inside of the 15 ly radius of a controlled system? Is there something else that determines if a system becomes exploited apart from the 15 ly radius, causing this systems to not to be exploited by near control systems?

Question2 - What happens if two uncontrolled systems are closer than 15 ly, and two different Power Play factions take control of them in the same cycle? The 15 ly radius would be overlapped. How are the exploited systems assigned in this case? Can the 15 ly radius overlap?

Question3 - If a system enters turmoil and revolt, becoming uncontrolled, I deduct that all exploited systems belonging to this previously controlled system become uncontrolled as well, is that what would happen?

Many thanks, all comments are appreciated.

 

[Misaniovent]

Fact 1: Correct.
Fact 2: Technically, they become exploited, shared, or contested, depending on the status of overlap.

1. This shouldn't happen but if it does it wouldn't be too shocking. Do you have an example?
2. The system with the most preps moves into expansion.
3. Correct. They might, however, be shared with or contested by another control system.

 

[aspiringexpatriate]

Technically, shared = exploited.

There are still three possibilities for an inhabited system within 15Ly of a Control System:
Exploited
Contested
Bugged/Exempted from PowerPlay by FDev (Shinrarta Dezhra)

Everything Mis said is accurate.

 

[MPL3D]

Many thanks for your answers, they are clarifying.

I have double checked and the uncontrolled system referred in Q1 is -not- inside the 15ly radius of a control system. However It happens that it is boundary with at least two of these 15ly bubbles. I think this makes the system not worthy to be controlled because systems in the 15ly radius are already exploited, and the income would be less than the upkeep costs.

This circumstance makes this kind of systems to become candidates to remain uncontrolled, unless they are worthy for one of the surrounding bubbles.

 

[Misaniovent]

Many thanks for your answers, they are clarifying.

I have double checked and the uncontrolled system referred in Q1 is -not- inside the 15ly radius of a control system. However It happens that it is boundary with at least two of these 15ly bubbles. I think this makes the system not worthy to be controlled because systems in the 15ly radius are already exploited, and the income would be less than the upkeep costs.

This circumstance makes this kind of systems to become candidates to remain uncontrolled, unless they are worthy for one of the surrounding bubbles.

You're on the right track. It could make the system a viable target for a weaponized expansion, intended to remove CC from neighboring control systems by contesting as many exploited systems as possible.

 

[MPL3D]

Thanks again for confirming the point. I find it all quite interesting indeed.

I'm investigating at the moment what actions can be take on a contested systems and others. So far as I understand, possible actions are (some in doubt):

* Uncontrolled Systems
======================

Any Power Play Faction (PPF) can:

Action1- Prepare for expansion
Action2- Prevent other PPF expansion

Question - Is there a way to know if a PPF is preparing a system other than visiting it and reviewing the Power Contacts at a station?


*Expansion systems
==================

Owner PPF:
- Fortify (example action, carrying PPF goods)

Other PPF:
- Undermine expansion (example action, destroy designated ships)(In doubt)


* Controlled systems
====================

Owner PPF:
- Fortify (example action, carrying PPF goods)

Other PPF:
- Undermine (example action, destroy designated ships)

Question - Can a controlled system that has been fortified still be undermined?


*Exploited systems
==================

Owner PPF:
- None? (In doubt)

Other PPF:

- None? (In doubt)


* Turmoil Systems
=================

Owner PPF:
- Fortify (example action, carrying PPF goods)(In doubt)

Other PPF:
- Undermine (example action, destroy designated ships)(In doubt)

Owner/Any PPF:
- Fortify/Undermine by engaging enemy PPF ships in Military Zones (in doubt)


* Revolt Systems
=================

Same as Turmoil (in doubt)


Perhaps I'm wrong and/or perhaps there are more possible states and actions, please feel free to correct me.

It would be nice to have a table with all possible status and their corresponding full list of actions. I guess I'll find out with time, but if you guys wanna help that would be great

So far, many thanks for all the info!

 

[Misaniovent]

Questions

You can view a power's preparation list in the power menu. Many powers will wait until Wednesday to get their prep lists sorted.


Systems have four states.


Default: Pays upkeep
Fortified: Does not pay upkeep
Undermined: Pays undermined upkeep (default upkeep plus income)
Cancelled: System is fortified and undermined. They cancel each other out; system pays normal upkeep and receives income. Functionally the same as the default state.


You can engage in BGS in exploited, shared, and contested systems to try to impact the local control system's fortification trigger.


Turmoil systems don't generate military strikes. You undermine them just like any other.


Systems aren't in revolt. They have revolted. If that makes sense. Once they've revolted, they are available to prep.


Are you pledged?

 

[MPL3D]

The preparation list in the power faction menu doesn't show all the systems, does it?

For example, I have delivered some PPF items to a system, and that system doesn't appear in the list.
That means that a neighbor system in the galaxy map could be in preparation and it cannot be noticed unless you visit a starport, it doesn't show in galaxy map neither anywhere else. At least that's what I've seen so far.

Those states that you name (Default, Fortified, Undermined, Cancelled) sound like financial states to me, which, for what you say, it seems that can happen simultaneously with the different expansion, exploited, and controlled states.

I've visited exploited systems and I found no action to perform. No actions available at the starports, and killing other Power faction ships didn't produce any Power merits either.

Many thanks for all the info again.

Yes I'm pledged to the princess. I look at her with prismatic eyes.

 

[Misaniovent]

The preparation list in the power faction menu doesn't show all the systems, does it?

For example, I have delivered some PPF items to a system, and that system doesn't appear in the list.
That means that a neighbor system in the galaxy map could be in preparation and it cannot be noticed unless you visit a starport, it doesn't show in galaxy map neither anywhere else. At least that's what I've seen so far.

Those states that you name (Default, Fortified, Undermined, Cancelled) sound like financial states to me, which, for what you say, it seems that can happen simultaneously with the different expansion, exploited, and controlled states.

I've visited exploited systems and I found no action to perform. No actions available at the starports, and killing other Power faction ships didn't produce any Power merits either.

Many thanks for all the info again.

Yes I'm pledged to the princess. I look at her with prismatic eyes.

It needs to be in the top 10 to appear in the list, and the interface has a delay. You can force an update by deleting some cache files, but it should show somewhere. Keep in mind that for a prepared system to move into expansion it needs to be above the consolidation marker and the power needs to have enough CC to afford it and any systems that might be above it on the list. The states I mentioned apply only to control systems. Exploited, shared, contested systems don't factor into those states. They just affect the income received by the control system, and their governments impact the favorability of the sphere for fortification trigger purposes.

There isn't anything to do in exploited systems except for missions for favorable governments. This won't earn you merits.

I can tell you that Aisling typically does not want to expand, as options are exhausted. Check out their slack here — that's where they organize.

 

[NavyBee]

Fact1 - Any uncontrolled system is a candidate to be a controlled system
Fact2 - When a system is controlled, systems in a 15 ly radius become exploited systems

Technically, within the PP framework populated systems which are located within 15 ly of a control system are either called "exploited", "shared" or "contested". So "controlled" can, under some circumstances, be an ambiguous term. If "controlled" is used to describe all of the aforementioned system states (and Misaniovent used it this way), fact 1 is correct. From the context of your OP, I am not sure it was meant this way.

 

[MPL3D]

Alright, many thanks to all for your comments and your help.
I guess best way to find things out is to keep on playing, I am just starting Power Play but I think I have a clearer vision now. Thanks.