Question about New Mining
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Yes, they will be destroyed and depleted forever. I guess it won't take more than a month to make every belts and asteroids in the bubble disappear so that miners have to fly around 1000ly to be able to find some remaining asteroids
The moment you wake out of the instance though...
Are you sure about that?
There's already override that doesn't mark asteroids as 'completed' for players, for three years if I remember correctly. And far as I understand yes, this will pretty much destroy this specific asteroid.
As how it will work in regards of instance and persistance not sure fully yet.
As how it will work in regards of instance and persistance not sure fully yet.
Pretty much. The only "persistence" I expect from FDev on that part is that a spot will gradually lose its "yield", going from pristine to whatever lower levels are named, ending at "exploited", where there will only be rocks. It probably wouldn't be feasible modelling whatever mind-boggling number of asteroids may there be in a ring.
Or were you referring to the fact that you'd never leave your paradise spot ever? ;-)
It will deplete it. Not forever, in my opinion, but per instance - persistence would require holding massive amount of data, currently there are only few generic hashes to distribute the rocks and asteroids and materials in them, you'd need to add remembering data per rock, which is simply not feasible (there are billions of rocks in a single planetary belt).
Not really. You remember those rocks for players who are depleted. It is already done for rocks already in game. Most likely these rocks will use similar status tracking. First they will be part of seed, but when they will be blown up, they will be added to override.
I allready left my paradise.. it was named beta 3 tucani
But isnt it the case that atm, the same roids yield the same stuff, even if you swap instance??
Yup, if nobody stays in the instance it gets reset.
I don't believe this is correct. Instances get reset when everybody leaves them. This is why barnacle pods re-appear and Guardian stuff refreshes, etc.
This is incorrect. It’s only saved in a temp file currently for a few hours, and then the stateful information is overwritten and the asteroids revert to their standard procedural default state, or fully “reborn”.
Unless this changes for 3.3 it will still be possilble to map the good rocks and continually mine them over and over and over again, even given the new mechanics.
Only per instance probably... but even if it was persistent... there are A LOT of rocks in a typical planetary ring... even if all ED players worked together, they could probably not deplete an entire ring in their lifetime.
That is a shame if the roids replenish themselves, like Mengy said.
Hopefully FDev will make the changes so that they can be permanently exhausted, like in the original DDF discussions.
Personally, I'd love to be pushed further and further away from the bubble to mine the good stuff.
Deep Space mining ship.....hmmmm....glorious.
Hopefully FDev will make the changes so that they can be permanently exhausted, like in the original DDF discussions.
Personally, I'd love to be pushed further and further away from the bubble to mine the good stuff.
Deep Space mining ship.....hmmmm....glorious.
Mining has it's own tracking for this. Turns out persistence is temporary but it is longer than instance lives.
I’m more interested to know things like:
Can I rig multiple rocks to be detonated at the same time?
Or could I coordinate with enough other players to rig multiple rocks to detonate so I can lay traps at HazRES for other people and detonate all the rocks at the same time, catch them in the blast and blow their griefy murder-machines right back to respawn while they’re dropping in?
Is there a fine or bounty issued if a rock detonation damages or destroys another ship?
Do I still collect the bounty of a wanted commander if I take them out with a rock blast?
Can I stick a detonation charge to something other than a rock? How muchgrief fun emergent gameplay can I inflict sticking a charge to a sidewinder and detonating it in a station airlock, right next to your Cutter?
What other-than-intended functions might these have?
Can I rig multiple rocks to be detonated at the same time?
Or could I coordinate with enough other players to rig multiple rocks to detonate so I can lay traps at HazRES for other people and detonate all the rocks at the same time, catch them in the blast and blow their griefy murder-machines right back to respawn while they’re dropping in?
Is there a fine or bounty issued if a rock detonation damages or destroys another ship?
Do I still collect the bounty of a wanted commander if I take them out with a rock blast?
Can I stick a detonation charge to something other than a rock? How much
What other-than-intended functions might these have?
Do we really care when it will take 4 months of tedious grind and pointless trips to an engineer to acquire these new mining tools and seismic missiles? (probably)
If it is desroyed and it leaves a 'gap' behind, then you can write your name in the ring,....
Or something rude. But no one would do that right?