Question about the Anaconda and its prowess...

[Miko]

OK, I just discovered an Anaconda discounted in a Station and decided to trade up my fully A spec'd Python war machine for this. I have top tier A spec'd the Conda right through, minus one component, the power plant, which I've settled currently on a C8 at 30MW's. A8 brings this to 36MW's but at an additional 150+ million.

Now at current I can only run this with the C8 power plant:

Internals:

A7 Shield Generator
A7 Thrusters
A6 FSD
A5 Life Support
A8 Power Distributor
A8 Sensors
1xA6 SCB
A5 Fuel Scoop
A4 FSD Interdictor

Hardpoints:

1x Huge Cannon
1X Large Cannon
2x Large Beams
1x C class KWS
1x HSL
1x Chaff
2x A Shield Booster

Total deployed power works out at 31.94MW's.

So my question to everyone is with regards to available power. I hear people talking about this ship being formidable and that you can basically sit in a res site without flinching.

Where, even at 36MW's, do you find the power to provide for more SCB's alongside 4 or more A class shield boosters? Especially if you utilise the full allocation of weapon hardpoints. I'm sure I'll find a setup I appreciate once I have that A8 power plant, but I'm still thinking this formidable ship will suffer even with power management.

In my Python I had everything loaded and still power to spare.

Is the Anaconda more of a multi role ship than the combat tank some people consider it to be?

Anyways, I'm away to trial this thing properly and see how she holds up.

 

[SCTrojanbulldog]

I use mine as a multi role trader. It's one of my fovorite ships.

For combat, I'd place my resources elsewhere as other ships are just better at it. The Conda is more of a jack of all trades end game ship.

Regards to your loadout. If you have the cash to trade out your C8 for a A7 Power Generator, do it. Same output with better heat management, and it's lighter.

I find the anaconda is a lot easier to fly when toggling FA. I also believe it pitches better than the python. Which makes me feel that the python may need some Dev tweeking, but just a little as that thing in the right hands just rips stuff apart.

 

[Miko]

I use mine as a multi role trader. It's one of my fovorite ships.

For combat, I'd place my resources elsewhere as other ships are just better at it. The Conda is more of a jack of all trades end game ship.

Regards to your loadout. If you have the cash to trade out your C8 for a A7 Power Generator, do it. Same output with better heat management, and it's lighter.

I find the anaconda is a lot easier to fly when toggling FA. I also believe it pitches better than the python. Which makes me feel that the python may need some Dev tweeking, but just a little as that thing in the right hands just rips stuff apart.

It adds immensely to the insurance cost and after buying the ship I don't have the same comfortable bank balance I had before.

What arouses my curiosity is the power being so low considering what the ship is allocated in terms of Hardpoints and Internals. I was really hoping for 40MW's. Like with every ship there has to be balance and considerations, but after hearing people talking about running 6+ A Shield boosters and multiple SCB'S along with Huge plasma and beams I just wonder if they're exaggerating. I don't think an extra 6MW's will allow me to change my loadout that much considering I'm already over deployed.

I found the Python to be much more agile even when kitted out with hull reinforcements and military grade bulkheads. I could whizz into stations and change direction quickly. The Anaconda even with A thrusters is very latchy and takes time to slow down - of course with this being a monster ship.

I'm definitely going to appreciate the extra tonnage and the fact nothing will mass lock me, basically. But I do wonder if the trade off was a sensible one...

 

[SCTrojanbulldog]

I'm almost positive tha Conda pitches better. As for other maneuvers, the python is most definitely more agile. Most of my combat and general play was in a clipper. So, pitch with heavy drift is nothing new. I actually land better in a conda than I did in a python. And I have never felt intimidated by the mail slot. It actually is easier to get a conda through that thing than a clipper.

I do believe you will notice a favorable difference in one on one combat with the Anaconda in regards to keeping on target..... IF you are use to FA toggling; otherwise, you will most definitely miss the python.

 

[Frenotx]

Are you familiar with how to manage power via power priorities?

 

[Para Handy]

Regards to your loadout. If you have the cash to trade out your C8 for a A7 Power Generator, do it. Same output with better heat management, and it's lighter.

I find the anaconda is a lot easier to fly when toggling FA. I also believe it pitches better than the python. Which makes me feel that the python may need some Dev tweeking, but just a little as that thing in the right hands just rips stuff apart.

1. I agree about the A7 power gen but I use C7 thrusters with that to keep power use down.

2. Glad to see that someone else agrees the python with FA off is a real pig now - conda pitches much better - 50% power and can keep most pirates under gimballed fire, smaller zippy ones need the turrets - vutures are a nightmare.

3. Module priority is the key with the conda at 30Mw - I would have cargo hatch, interdictor and fuel scoop at priority 5 - FSD on 4 - stick lowest usefulness weapon on 3 next on 2 and your banker weapons on 1 as will be your other stuff.

4. You don't list anything on your medium and small points - I use F2T multicannons and two class 1 pulse turrets - (keeps nippy eagles etc honest).

 

[Miko]

Are you familiar with how to manage power via power priorities?

Yes. I'm over deployed as I say and I have set my fuel scoop, Interdictor, Cargo Hatch and KWS to priorities 2 and 3.

What I'm more getting at are the claims that this thing can run everything basically full pelt and still manage, yet I reckon even with that A8 I'll either have some empty weapon bays or settle on 2 A Shield boosters max if running more than 1 SCB.

 

[SCTrojanbulldog]

Yes. I'm over deployed as I say and I have set my fuel scoop, Interdictor, Cargo Hatch and KWS to priorities 2 and 3.

What I'm more getting at are the claims that this thing can run everything basically full pelt and still manage, yet I reckon even with that A8 I'll either have some empty weapon bays or settle on 2 A Shield boosters max if running more than 1 SCB.

This may not sit well with some, but I'd equip a Bi-weave and try it out befor a SCB.... especially if you're married to that C8 power-plant. That heat can make for a uncomfortable repair bill and heavin forbid it knocks out a critical system... Which may lead to a discussion with your insurance agent.

 

[Miko]

I haven't run into heat issues yet and those 2 beams can run for a long time and only gets to around 75% heat. I might switch them up for some large pulse beams to spare some power for now and employ more shield boosters and smaller arms. That A8 will definitely help there but I'm still skeptical I can make this an unstoppable battleship like some declare it to be. Speaking more for if/when real players attack me. I feel more worried in this thing than than Python which I felt zero intimidation in even when faced by some guy in a corvette with a wing of vipers.

 

[SCTrojanbulldog]

For combat purposes, I find a Python, fdl, and vulture far superior. Anaconda is a huge target that makes PVE intrerdictions and USS's less stressful. If I'm hitting up a RES or CZ, I need something faster to get to the target and maneuverable enough to set up the approach and flexible enough to get the hell out when things turn.

That is NOT the Anaconda.

 

[Miko]

I reckon I'll utilise this to kill some big targets as per usual and just invest in another Python. They're going cheap up this place too at around 45 million or something. That way I can enjoy the best of both when the time comes. Otherwise I'll aim for that A8 and see what loadout hits my sweet spot.

I do miss the agility though with the Python. Last night that guy in the corvette and his viper ally said they're hunting and killing Hudson players. He didn't open fire and watched as I flew rings around him and hid underneath him etc. His Viper tried to flank me and found I'd boosted and utilised my thrusters just right to instead flank him. I don't think they felt too confident in attacking me. I'd never manage what I was doing with the Python there in this Anaconda, but then if she proves to be a beast then I might not need to.

 

[crushdepth]

Downgrade your life support and sensors to D, put your fuel scoop and FSD in a second priority power group. Consider swapping the beams for pulse, which are more power efficient.

 

[SGT TickleFight]

Downgrade your life support and sensors to D, put your fuel scoop and FSD in a second priority power group. Consider swapping the beams for pulse, which are more power efficient.

^^This - A8 sensors basically = A6 SCB. If you stack SCBs you need to manually power up SCBs and heat sink launchers as you blow through them.

 

[Crimson Kaim]

Is this a trade Conda? Please don't tell me you want to take this snake to fights ... this is a not-so-poisonous snake

 

[GilliganTX]

FOLD

FWIW, here's my "General purpose" battle conda load out

http://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/...404044k5n05052d2d0403v4322f.Iw18ZlA=.Aw18ZlA=

 

[RAD]

OP, would you mind posting the system with the discount? I'll be in the market for an Anaconda pretty soon, and would like to save a buck or two.

 

[GilliganTX]

OP, would you mind posting the system with the discount? I'll be in the market for an Anaconda pretty soon, and would like to save a buck or two.

Any Li Rong Yu system will have the discount. Just find one with an anaconda. They are very common.


Now, FDL's, on the otherhand...

 

[CAPT. Ho Chi Minge]

basically this , if you want to stack up SCB's you have to power them down and only have the one you are using powered up. this means you will only ever be powering up 1 SCB at a time and saving loads on juice.

 

[Miko]

Is this a trade Conda? Please don't tell me you want to take this snake to fights ... this is a not-so-poisonous snake

Lol, I've A rated it minus the power plant. How can you make it all the more poisonous. I've switched out the beams for 2 plasma and 4 cannons (2 large) just for now. Anyway, I'm aware I can fine tune the ship, but the essential part of my original post was putting to question those who say they're flying an unstoppable battleship with a plethora of high grade arms along with a multitude of A Shield boosters and scb's. I doubt that power management could handle that very effectively considering the 36MW limitation.

But we'll see. I worked miracles with my Fer-De-Lance and Python so I'm sure I'll find a way to love this ship too.

 

[Miko]

Oh and in response to the query. You can locate the Anaconda in Arimil for under 130 million. The Python is one jump away for 45 million or so. All ship parts are discounted too, so it helps with the purchase. Arimil didn't have all the essentials, but high tech systems nearby do. One of them also has the discounts.

Interestingly, had I opted to just keep my Python, I could have gained back millions or so by selling all my internals separately and then the ship and jumping to the next system then investing in the discounted Python and buying the same internals at the discount. Good way to enjoy the discounted systems you locate and make a credit rebate of sorts from your ships if you wanted to do that. I would have done this had I backed out of the Anaconda purchase, but thought I'd share the interesting thought.

Might be considered a poor man's exploit though.