Question for glasses wearers

[TomT]

I've had my CV1 for a few weeks now, and have not used my glasses since I didn't really understand how vr works relative to eyesight. I've done a bit of research, and it seems that if you need glasses, it helps to wear them with the headset.

I'm shortsighted and have glasses I use for working on my computer, and others for driving, watching tv etc. I don't need any for reading and that's why I thought I wouldn't need glasses since the rift lenses are so close to my eyes.

Anyway, I'm going to try out both pairs (computer glasses and driving glasses) to see what if any difference it makes.

Anyone else have experience and/or advice on this?

Here's a link to an article on this if anyone is interested: https://hollybrockwell.com/2015/03/13/glasses-shortsightedness-virtual-reality/

On the continuing quest to get the sharpest/clearest experience in VR...

 

[Zeeman]

I'm far sighted, with a high prescription, and do need to wear them inside the headset - to be brutally honest, it sucks. Probably best off with either contacts, or, at worst, "sports" style wrap around glass that cover your whole field of vision.

Z...

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

Apparently the focus point of the Rift is infinity so if you need glasses for driving, long distance etc. then you probably need them in the Rift. I need glasses for both monitor use and driving but my prescription is mild so I can get away without them but I find that the cockpit text is a little sharper when I wear my glasses and my eyes get less tired.

OP are you aware of these: http://vr-lens-lab.com/product/oculus-rift-lens-inserts/

 

[DD_Crash]

This thread gives feedback on the lens https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=176453

 

[wstephenson]

Apparently the focus point of the Rift is infinity so if you need glasses for driving, long distance etc. then you probably need them in the Rift. I need glasses for both monitor use and driving but my prescription is mild so I can get away without them but I find that the cockpit text is a little sharper when I wear my glasses and my eyes get less tired.

OP are you aware of these: http://vr-lens-lab.com/product/oculus-rift-lens-inserts/

I use these with the Vive and am very happy with them. I don't perceive any distortion while using them.

 

[Major Klutz]

I have a heavy astigmatism so I have to wear glasses for near and far.
I wear my computer glasses with the Vive. I tried both and the close up prescription worked better for me than the distance prescription.

I read somewhere that the focal distance in the Vive is ~75cm or 2.5 ft
A focal distance like this kind of makes sense since a lot of people who need glasses, need them for reading close up OR for seeing far away but can see OK without glasses at an intermediate distance.
I've read a lot of reviewers who say they don't need their glasses at all with their VR headset.

Rift lenses are very different from the Vive though. I can't find a reliable source or even a consensus on what the focal distance is.
There's this video which seems to show the focal distance of the DK2 at ~1.3 meters
and I believe the CV1 optics are the same as the DK2

I would just try both glasses and see which one works best for you. And I'll be curious which prescription works best for you, so please report back.

Some other references
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/vive-rift-playstation-vr-comparison,review-33556-3.html
http://doc-ok.org/?p=1414
Near Sighted and VR ...
https://hollybrockwell.com/2015/03/13/glasses-shortsightedness-virtual-reality/

 

[Major Klutz]

Curiuous about other glasses wearers.

If a far sighted person needs glasses in the HMD, then it is not focused at infinity.
If near sighted need glasses too, it must not be focused at a close distance.
Older people like myself who might be far sighted have also probably lost the ability to focus close up.

I've read a lot of reports from far sighted and near sighted people who say they need to wear their glasses.
And others who wear glasses say they don't need them in the HMD.

So which is it?
I would be interested in hearing from other users, which prescription if any they use or don't use in the HMD.
Are you nearsighted, far sighted or both? Do you have two different prescriptions? and if so, which do you use in the HMD?
Do you get away without wearing your glasses in the HMD? If so are you near sighted or far sighted?
At what distance (if any) can you focus and read clearly without glasses?

Personally, I'm 50, my prescription is mild in terms of focus but I have a heavy astigmatism so I can't focus clearly at any distance.
Without the astigmatism, at my age I have presbyopia anyway, so I would be far sighted.
I found that both my distance prescription and my computer prescription both helped in the Vive but the computer prescription was clearly better so that's what I wear in the HMD.
That prescription is set for a distance of about 24 inches

 

[Yololo69]

I'm 50 and I need my glasses to drive, not to read (I say that as I'm not sure what mean exactly near and farsighted). I need them in the Rift unfortunately, and it's really uncomfortable. What I read somewhere is the VR focus in Rift is 1,50 meter (so it differ from what I read above 75cm) and effectively I can't use my computer glasses (tuned to my view) as things are too far so appear sightly blurry. In Rift I need to use same glasses than when I drive (so to see far).

It's not anymore a problem to wear glasses in the Rift as I made a first mod to press foam on each side using tape, and then today I finally cut the foam to wear my glasses more comfortably, so I can forget them in the Rift. I got inspired by a reddit post and this picture: http://imgur.com/QJEg1zz

Be warmed that induce than some light can enter in the rift left and right side from behind, but it's negligible and I don't have any light behind me when I'm in the Rift. This is night and day now for me and I don't have anymore problem on my temples and on my nose. I really glad I had the courage to do that!

 

[Verlaine]

I'm a glasses wearer but switched to contacts around one year ago and haven't looked back. I use Biofinity contacts, which last one month and can stay in your eye for a week.

But if you have to stick with glasses, VRCover makes a replacement Rift frame for glasses wearers that has extra depth to accomidate for the spectacles. I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a look.

 

[Zeeman]

Curiuous about other glasses wearers.

If a far sighted person needs glasses in the HMD, then it is not focused at infinity.
If near sighted need glasses too, it must not be focused at a close distance.
Older people like myself who might be far sighted have also probably lost the ability to focus close up.

I've read a lot of reports from far sighted and near sighted people who say they need to wear their glasses.
And others who wear glasses say they don't need them in the HMD.

So which is it?
I would be interested in hearing from other users, which prescription if any they use or don't use in the HMD.
Are you nearsighted, far sighted or both? Do you have two different prescriptions? and if so, which do you use in the HMD?
Do you get away without wearing your glasses in the HMD? If so are you near sighted or far sighted?
At what distance (if any) can you focus and read clearly without glasses?

Personally, I'm 50, my prescription is mild in terms of focus but I have a heavy astigmatism so I can't focus clearly at any distance.
Without the astigmatism, at my age I have presbyopia anyway, so I would be far sighted.
I found that both my distance prescription and my computer prescription both helped in the Vive but the computer prescription was clearly better so that's what I wear in the HMD.
That prescription is set for a distance of about 24 inches

My prescription is in the high +5 -> +6 range, but I also have a bad case of astigmatism, so I'm screwed all 'round. I'm going to get some sports glasses to test, but will most likely stick with contacts int he end, whilst the in HMD lenses seem like a good idea, when I take the headset off, I'm going to end up having to put glasses on to read or do whatever I need to do, or even just type...

Z...

 

[Dedlite]

I do where glasses - for everythinb EXCEPT reading/any other close work, re. tablet use. So for that reason, i have always removed the glasses for using the Rift.

However, because of this thread, I managed to pull on the HMD over my bins and - I CAN SEE TEXT AND STUFF NOW!


Thanks OP!

 

[Chaz]

I'm moderately short sighted and yes I would need to wear my glasses when using the Rift. However I have instead opted to use contact lenses when using mine.

I have tried using glasses with them but I found it to be too uncomfortable and too much hassle. The glasses got pressed down hard onto my face and at the sides of the head. Also if your glasses are a little bit smudged it just makes the whole god ray effect thing even worse.

I haven't tried the prescription lens inserts from that company, but other people occasionally use my headset, so that didn't seem particularly practical either.

So for me, contact lenses it is.

 

[Major Klutz]

I'm 50 and I need my glasses to drive, not to read (I say that as I'm not sure what mean exactly near and farsighted). I need them in the Rift unfortunately, and it's really uncomfortable. What I read somewhere is the VR focus in Rift is 1,50 meter (so it differ from what I read above 75cm) and effectively I can't use my computer glasses (tuned to my view) as things are too far so appear sightly blurry. In Rift I need to use same glasses than when I drive (so to see far).

It's not anymore a problem to wear glasses in the Rift as I made a first mod to press foam on each side using tape, and then today I finally cut the foam to wear my glasses more comfortably, ...
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As I understand it, Near Sighted means you can see near but not far. Far sighted is the opposite.
1.5 meters is pretty close to the 1.3 meters I mentioned above for the rift. The 75cm distance is for the Vive which has very different lenses.
The Vive face foam has space on the sides for glasses, very similar to what you did to your Rift, so it is not uncomfortable to wear glasses with the Vive at all.

 

[AH_ImADot]

It surprises me that something like VR goggles that cost so much don't have a simple diopter adjustment, like are on every set of binoculars and most every eyepiece on DSLR cameras.

I had LASIK surgery close to 18 years ago to fix my myopia and astigmatism. Now that I'm over 50, I wear single-vision glasses to work at the computer, and +2.00 "cheaters" for reading books. This has kept me out of the VR world for now.

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

It surprises me that something like VR goggles that cost so much don't have a simple diopter adjustment, like are on every set of binoculars and most every eyepiece on DSLR cameras.

I had LASIK surgery close to 18 years ago to fix my myopia and astigmatism. Now that I'm over 50, I wear single-vision glasses to work at the computer, and +2.00 "cheaters" for reading books. This has kept me out of the VR world for now.

You will likely not need glasses at all in VR. I'm slightly far-sighted as well (I use +2.5 for reading glasses and computer work on a monitor, but see clearly over about 6 feet from me out to infinity.) I don't need glasses in the Rift at all. Its a welcome relief!

I think there would be issues when people are very long-sighted, or have strong astigmatism. And shortsighted people still need to use glasses in VR, as the apparent focal length is set for infinity in the Rift CV1 and Vive.

Incidentally, the Rift lenses do have adjustment for focus - the lenses are designed with a slight wedge shape so that you can position them up or down slightly within the 'central sweet spot' to change focus.
I haven't needed to adjust this though - I look straight out through the sweet spot.

 

[TomT]

So, finally gotten the time (busy holidays) to try out my computer glasses, and driving/TV glasses. The bottom line is the driving/TV glasses do make an improvement, but they are really a pain to use. Getting the headset on over them, plus the discomfort, however small, of the fit in the headset kind of discourages using them.

I am starting to look into this solution: http://vr-lens-lab.com/

Looks to be pretty much an ideal solution, anyone had any experience with them?

 

[dogbite]

So, finally gotten the time (busy holidays) to try out my computer glasses, and driving/TV glasses. The bottom line is the driving/TV glasses do make an improvement, but they are really a pain to use. Getting the headset on over them, plus the discomfort, however small, of the fit in the headset kind of discourages using them.

I am starting to look into this solution: http://vr-lens-lab.com/

Looks to be pretty much an ideal solution, anyone had any experience with them?

The original VRLens had a distortion or barreling and didn't lock in well. They supposedly fix these issues, but I remember reading some were still complaining about the locking mechanism. I would look for reviews on 2nd gen VR Lenses before buying. I found contacts to be the best solution as they don't add weight.

 

[Dedlite]

Hiya fellas - I got a copy of my prescription from Specsavers - can someone work out how it fits into to the vr-labs-lenses.com format?

I've got 'R -1.75|-0.50 x 90
L -2.00

Mear Add +1.00'

Cheers guys!

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

Hiya fellas - I got a copy of my prescription from Specsavers - can someone work out how it fits into to the vr-labs-lenses.com format?

I've got 'R -1.75|-0.50 x 90

So this would be SPH-R, CYL-R and AXS-R (sphere, cylinder and axis)

L -2.00

So this would be SPH-L, but you need the values for cylinder and axis for the left eye.

Mear Add +1.00'

Must mean Near Add (reading addition) which is not needed for vr lens lab.

 

[TomT]

Hiya fellas - I got a copy of my prescription from Specsavers - can someone work out how it fits into to the vr-labs-lenses.com format?

I've got 'R -1.75|-0.50 x 90
L -2.00

Mear Add +1.00'

Cheers guys!

If you get the vr labs lenses, can you let us know how they are? There was one post about some past issues, that may (or may not) are now resolved...

Thanks and good luck