Rank up in one faction should decrease rank in the other?

I think "yes". I'm now allied with all major factions and it feels kind of meaningless.

Unless the one of the factions give you missions that impact the other, I don't see why they should care.

Lets just look at the cold war that was in effect for the latter part of the 20th century. If a state or actor was allied with the Soviet Bloc then they would not have been accepted as an ally with NATO (at least not without some kind of regime change and formal declaration/treaty) and vice versa. Nobody was ever a Warsaw Pact general and a Nato Rear Admiral (unless they were a spy I suppose).

Based on my understanding of the galactopolitik of Elite I think being allied with Empire/Federation should prevent you from gaining rep above neutral, and depending on your activities be unfriendly or hostile, with the respective antagonist. Your rep with the Alliance should have a cap of friendly and no higher, subject to your activities.

If you were to choose to be allied with the Alliance then as they appear to be a neutral bloc (equivalent to Switzerland, they have the bank of Zaonce right?) with respect to Empire/Federation relations, your rep with either of these factions should be capped at a maximum of friendly with your standing with one always having an effect on the other. e.g. Alliance: allied, Federation: friendly, Empire: unfriendly or Alliance: allied, Federation: neutral, Empire: neutral or Alliance: allied, Federation: hostile, Empire: friendly etc.

Plus how would they even know?

With regard to how would one faction know about your rep with another? Espionage, not just any old espionage but future sci-fi type espionage, coupled with super advanced future communications tech. There would be spies everywhere and lots of hidden monitoring relays in the asteroid belts tracking ship movements and activities of pilots.

So that's how I would like it to work and maybe we might get something like it with power play.
 
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Well, I think "no".

MacDonald and KFC are competitors, but both of them will consider you as good customer if you eat in both.
 
For crying out aloud, you cannot compare two capitalist firms striving for peoples dollars to two Galactic empires. All these analogies are incorrect.

Think of it like a terrorist cell vs America or something... not maccas vs kfc.... it's not solely a financial war lol
 
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Yes. I doubt that the Queen would knight a Russian general. Not today and not 30 years ago.

What if he turned up, took out a rogue general who had stolen some military hardware while spouting anti-crown propaganda. And then engages in delivery of (and donating) tons of food and did a load of relief work that saves the lives of hundreds of citizens?

They aren't real ranks anyway.
 
I think "yes". I'm now allied with all major factions and it feels kind of meaningless.

totally agree.
only personal game play makes this up for me.
I only hold rankings in imperial space and do no even collect the bounties of the independents.

the problem with this is those bounties clog up my screens.
wish I could discard those or maybe even sell them some how.

I hope it will change allot with the next big update.
 
It made a difference back in Frontier. It was theoretically possible to climb both trees but bloomin difficult. I've never understood why ED changed it. It's not as if the Empire and the Feds have suddenly become besties.
 
You can clear them by buying a sidewinder and boosting into a wall.
It made a difference back in Frontier. It was theoretically possible to climb both trees but bloomin difficult. I've never understood why ED changed it. It's not as if the Empire and the Feds have suddenly become besties.

Actually, I think you could comfortably hold ranks in both like we can now.
 
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What if he turned up, took out a rogue general who had stolen some military hardware while spouting anti-crown propaganda. And then engages in delivery of (and donating) tons of food and did a load of relief work that saves the lives of hundreds of citizens?

They aren't real ranks anyway.

He might get knighted but the Russians would give him a dishonorable discharge.
 
I'm Australian. But if I do something that helps France, my government doesn't care.

Really, the only problem is the official names of the ranks. How can an independent civilian pilot get military ranks?

It's on thing to help France, it's another to sign up for their army, assuming the ranks are valid and there's no reason why not. You bring up another bug I have with Fed ranks, they're a strange mix of enlisted, commissioned officer and warrant officer ranks. Civilians can be given a commission by warrant if they have skills that are needed.
 
It should be like Enlisting, any civilian can....BUT! you should only be able to join one side....and as far as leading a double life? och that's possible sure...but it would be deep, involving deep coding, you got spies everywhere, who's going to trust you if you're playing both sides... they gonna give you missions to prove your loyalty? so you can stay in deep cover? don't think any MMO will ever have this... sadly...
 
How would one faction know you were doing work for another?

Also, this would encourage staying in "your" factions systems, which would essentially create as smaller game for those who don't want to be shot at on site by NPCs.

The system is fine the way it is.
 
How would one faction know you were doing work for another?

Also, this would encourage staying in "your" factions systems, which would essentially create as smaller game for those who don't want to be shot at on site by NPCs.

The system is fine the way it is.

ahh spies? informants maybe? You do realise intelligence agencies do exist in the future and they monitor their own people, especially high ranking officials for example... :)
And don't worry the Clipper or Droppo you've earned, you'd get to keep. lol
 
I think that you should be able to be friends with all 3 , but if you do something to one during a time of war you loose rep for another and maybe have some missions cause negative effect like maybe the alliance likes you less when you deal in slaves
 
For accuracy, what I said was "Whether that means that any rank up in one faction should decrease rank in the other, well that is a different discussion." :p I have no strong point of view either way!
 
He might get knighted but the Russians would give him a dishonorable discharge.
While that is true, we are not a part of any military or government and that is just a fact. We are what would historically be called privateers, pirates, filibuster, and/or armed merchantmen. We own our own ships and go where we please and take what we want (with its own set or repercussions). We can play the whole game without even taking a single mission or we could be the highest civilian rank available.
 
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