Hello CMDR's
Let me start by saying thank-you for taking the time to open this thread and have a read. The main aim of this is to voice my reasons for not finding any incentive to load the game in it's current state. I won't be poring over each and every part of the game that needs attention but focusing more on how I've felt the desire to play being sucked out of me by the debates being raised by Frontier themselves.
Permits: I recently found out that a permit requirement for a system had been removed from the game. This to me is nothing more than the removal of content – despite the shallow nature of the mechanic required to gain access. I'm talking about Phekda which after 1.2 had permit issues i.e. The missions to get the permit where not working – the solution to this appears, on the surface, to just remove the permit in totality.
For the players who have already worked to gain access you have kind of cheapened their achievement. To those who were working towards gaining the permit, you just pulled the rug out from under their feet.
Crime and punishment: After who knows how long you have finally shown us that you want a change in the justice system – hardly surprising given your current game could be renamed Elite:Crime Pays! But it seems there is an underlying reason why you asked this when you did as not to long after the next item was raised...
PP to be more effective in Open: The idea that was dropped on us to debate was to have your actions in PP count more in Open. Not give you better rewards – just your actions would count for more in Open.
What is the point of even having the 'One Galaxy' you are so keen to point out to us, news flash, different systems talking to one set of databases is nothing new or ground breaking.
PvPvE: When considered along with the previous item it becomes apparent that FD have a desire to get more players back into open by adding incentives to play there. Why?
Simple, Brabens vision of a living breathing galaxy is going lady bumps up. He seems to have not understood PvP at all when designing the game which has lead to us having the mother of all debates/fights/arguments both in game and here on the forums.
The game has so much potential for providing PvP but instead you gave us CQC which bombed, you then re-packaged it as Arena... Just look at the forums for both of these, there right away is a problem of identity – they are the same game but require a different forum thus keeping the few players who visit the forum looking in different areas for the same information. Seriously how hard is it to have just one forum area called Arena/CQC?
Finish what you start: Project management 101... Everything you have released so far needs to be finished, bug fixed and most importantly supported via player feedback. This community is fantastic at coming up with ideas – could do with learning to balance them a bit more but then enthusiasm to see the game develop is massive – you seem to just ignore it and move on to the next big thing. Big mistake.
Missions: I know the nature of how you are trying to generate procedural missions but please tell your QA department to at least test them before sending them to beta – you are embarrassing yourselves by the constant broken state of missions that make it in to a beta and somehow survive to still be present in the release client.
Grow a pair and explain to the players that there is a problem... You finally managed to do this over 2.1. What took you so long to realise we prefer an honest delay in the pursuit of quality to a shoddy update?
POI's: How many of us have to complain about the stupid amount of wrecks on planets outside of the bubble before you actually do something about it? Horizon's released 3 months ago and still I can find thousands of ships on any single world we can land on anywhere in the galaxy.
It really cheapens the whole exploration vibe when it becomes clear you are in no way the first person to have visited this system – If you see 2 planets that can be landed on you will find more wrecks than there are real CMDR's online. There can be no other word than stupid to describe this state of affairs.
Economy: Station prices not being accessible until you land. What kind of market economy is this? It's certainly not one that humanity would ever live under that's for sure.
'Just going out for some milk dear'
'OK, how much will it be?'
'Somewhere between 50p and £9.78 but I'll only know when I've been in every shop'
'If only shops advertised their prices live would be so much simpler'
No doubt someone will point out the Lore situation – I would reply CQC manages to connect pilots all across the bubble together which is in it self lore breaking but station won't tell you their prices to attract more business... I guess North Korea must have taken over humanity at some point.
Just as Braben said they have got it wrong I may also have misunderstood some of the points I have raised but FD, that also is down to yourselves through not giving any clear information just points you are eluding to with no clear direction – this concerns me greatly as you move further into your ten year plan.
Maybe part of my frustration is just a result of overplaying the game... except I only get a couple of hours a night to play anyway and despite getting the game in mid June last year I have only 4 weeks of in game time so if it is down to over playing the game... that is not a good sign.
To those who feel the need to reply. I have my flame retardant undies on so bring it on!
But lets keep this nice and civil please, don't want to bother the moderators, they have lives too
TL;DR - Then no need to reply
Let me start by saying thank-you for taking the time to open this thread and have a read. The main aim of this is to voice my reasons for not finding any incentive to load the game in it's current state. I won't be poring over each and every part of the game that needs attention but focusing more on how I've felt the desire to play being sucked out of me by the debates being raised by Frontier themselves.
Permits: I recently found out that a permit requirement for a system had been removed from the game. This to me is nothing more than the removal of content – despite the shallow nature of the mechanic required to gain access. I'm talking about Phekda which after 1.2 had permit issues i.e. The missions to get the permit where not working – the solution to this appears, on the surface, to just remove the permit in totality.
For the players who have already worked to gain access you have kind of cheapened their achievement. To those who were working towards gaining the permit, you just pulled the rug out from under their feet.
Crime and punishment: After who knows how long you have finally shown us that you want a change in the justice system – hardly surprising given your current game could be renamed Elite:Crime Pays! But it seems there is an underlying reason why you asked this when you did as not to long after the next item was raised...
PP to be more effective in Open: The idea that was dropped on us to debate was to have your actions in PP count more in Open. Not give you better rewards – just your actions would count for more in Open.
What is the point of even having the 'One Galaxy' you are so keen to point out to us, news flash, different systems talking to one set of databases is nothing new or ground breaking.
PvPvE: When considered along with the previous item it becomes apparent that FD have a desire to get more players back into open by adding incentives to play there. Why?
Simple, Brabens vision of a living breathing galaxy is going lady bumps up. He seems to have not understood PvP at all when designing the game which has lead to us having the mother of all debates/fights/arguments both in game and here on the forums.
The game has so much potential for providing PvP but instead you gave us CQC which bombed, you then re-packaged it as Arena... Just look at the forums for both of these, there right away is a problem of identity – they are the same game but require a different forum thus keeping the few players who visit the forum looking in different areas for the same information. Seriously how hard is it to have just one forum area called Arena/CQC?
Finish what you start: Project management 101... Everything you have released so far needs to be finished, bug fixed and most importantly supported via player feedback. This community is fantastic at coming up with ideas – could do with learning to balance them a bit more but then enthusiasm to see the game develop is massive – you seem to just ignore it and move on to the next big thing. Big mistake.
Missions: I know the nature of how you are trying to generate procedural missions but please tell your QA department to at least test them before sending them to beta – you are embarrassing yourselves by the constant broken state of missions that make it in to a beta and somehow survive to still be present in the release client.
Grow a pair and explain to the players that there is a problem... You finally managed to do this over 2.1. What took you so long to realise we prefer an honest delay in the pursuit of quality to a shoddy update?
POI's: How many of us have to complain about the stupid amount of wrecks on planets outside of the bubble before you actually do something about it? Horizon's released 3 months ago and still I can find thousands of ships on any single world we can land on anywhere in the galaxy.
It really cheapens the whole exploration vibe when it becomes clear you are in no way the first person to have visited this system – If you see 2 planets that can be landed on you will find more wrecks than there are real CMDR's online. There can be no other word than stupid to describe this state of affairs.
Economy: Station prices not being accessible until you land. What kind of market economy is this? It's certainly not one that humanity would ever live under that's for sure.
'Just going out for some milk dear'
'OK, how much will it be?'
'Somewhere between 50p and £9.78 but I'll only know when I've been in every shop'
'If only shops advertised their prices live would be so much simpler'
No doubt someone will point out the Lore situation – I would reply CQC manages to connect pilots all across the bubble together which is in it self lore breaking but station won't tell you their prices to attract more business... I guess North Korea must have taken over humanity at some point.
Just as Braben said they have got it wrong I may also have misunderstood some of the points I have raised but FD, that also is down to yourselves through not giving any clear information just points you are eluding to with no clear direction – this concerns me greatly as you move further into your ten year plan.
Maybe part of my frustration is just a result of overplaying the game... except I only get a couple of hours a night to play anyway and despite getting the game in mid June last year I have only 4 weeks of in game time so if it is down to over playing the game... that is not a good sign.
To those who feel the need to reply. I have my flame retardant undies on so bring it on!
But lets keep this nice and civil please, don't want to bother the moderators, they have lives too
TL;DR - Then no need to reply
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