Rare and Very Rare materials.
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I think you can, though I mainly get them planet-side.. I have mined from asteroids and I'm sure I got some form asteroids. in a pristine system. not a asteroid belt around a planet, but they also may have them I no longer do any belt mining
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It seems not.I spent 6 hrs mining pristine Icy, Rocky, Metallic and Metal Rich.
Not one mat above standard.
Went and checked inara and it seems anything above standard is SRV only.
I was doing Mat only mining so I was getting hundreds of mats. (no refinery)
None above standard.
And add to that the broken scanner on the SRV atm and well.......
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what materials are you looking for?
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence....but that said, one of my core activities is mining and since the launch of engineers I've put in well over 300+ hours just in mining.
At least 40+ hours since 2.2.03, and so far - no. Very common and common are gained in substantial to decent quantities - S, C, P, Ni, Fe, Cr, etc ; some are better sourced via ice mining, some via pristine metallic. But unless it's a bug, seems intended by FD that mining = no access to Rare and Very Rare mats.
Which is bizarre, because there should be all the metals and minerals we find on planets on asteroids as well. Not on every one, but from a stellar forge pov, exist in asteroids with some greater or lesser degree of concentration. It's the usual game balance vs common sense / IRL reality issue again I suppose.
At least 40+ hours since 2.2.03, and so far - no. Very common and common are gained in substantial to decent quantities - S, C, P, Ni, Fe, Cr, etc ; some are better sourced via ice mining, some via pristine metallic. But unless it's a bug, seems intended by FD that mining = no access to Rare and Very Rare mats.
Which is bizarre, because there should be all the metals and minerals we find on planets on asteroids as well. Not on every one, but from a stellar forge pov, exist in asteroids with some greater or lesser degree of concentration. It's the usual game balance vs common sense / IRL reality issue again I suppose.
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The quality of the belts may affect what you get? i.e common reserves vs pristine reserves.
My understanding is that Rare are minable and available in pristine metallic rings (maybe elsewhere too). Very Rare are not. To find those, you must land on a planet (or moon) and hunt them down with an SRV.
Even though the SRV scanner is buggy, it's still usable. If a signal disapears when you get close, spin in a circle until you find a strong audible tone. Keep heading towards the loudest tone. You can track it down by sound, even if the scanner doesn't show a strong signal "block". I've collected hundreds of materials this way over the last few months.
Even though the SRV scanner is buggy, it's still usable. If a signal disapears when you get close, spin in a circle until you find a strong audible tone. Keep heading towards the loudest tone. You can track it down by sound, even if the scanner doesn't show a strong signal "block". I've collected hundreds of materials this way over the last few months.
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The epic rescue of CMDR Macedonia by CMDR Chiggy was completed by finding germanium in a ring system.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/308075-End-of-the-Road?p=4785404&viewfull=1#post4785404
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/308075-End-of-the-Road?p=4785404&viewfull=1#post4785404
Germanium isnt rare or very rare though.
I think it is probably intended.
Which is a shame as mining shouldn't be restricted, just to force the use of the SRV.
Would be nice to have available mats listed for rings and belts, same as for the planets.
That would help quite a bit.
I have only done about 200 mil worth of mining in total out of my 3000+ hrs playing.
But i am quite sure mats above standard are not present in rings.
Though yes quite sure is not 100% positive
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Mining :
Grade 1 Materials = very Common byproduct (estimated ~80%; in Icy Mining it appears to constitute 100%)
Grade 2 Materials = byproduct (estimated ~15%)
Grade 3 Materials = rare byproduct (estimated ~5%)
Grade 4 Materials = very rare byproduct (estimated ~1% or less, so far I only ever observed it in a Metal-Rich ring)
Grade 5 Materials = not observed
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Limited Survey of HIP 61061 (Pristine Icy, Rocky, Metal-Rich and Metallic) :
Grade 1 Materials = very Common byproduct (estimated ~80%; in Icy Mining it appears to constitute 100%)
Grade 2 Materials = byproduct (estimated ~15%)
Grade 3 Materials = rare byproduct (estimated ~5%)
Grade 4 Materials = very rare byproduct (estimated ~1% or less, so far I only ever observed it in a Metal-Rich ring)
Grade 5 Materials = not observed
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Limited Survey of HIP 61061 (Pristine Icy, Rocky, Metal-Rich and Metallic) :
Code:
Type Grade Materials Discovered
Metallic 1 Carbon, Iron, Nickel, Phosphorus, Sulphur
Metallic 2 Chromium, Manganese, Zinc
Metallic 3 Niobium
Metal-Rich 1 Carbon, Iron, Nickel, Phosphorus, Sulphur
Metal-Rich 2 Chromium, Vanadium, Zinc
Metal-Rich 4 Cadmium, Molybdenum
Rocky 1 Carbon, Iron, Nickel, Phosphorus, Sulphur
Rocky 2 Chromium, Vanadium
Rocky 3 Niobium
Icy 1 Carbon, Iron, Nickel, Phosphorus, Sulphur
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Yes indeed it does.
But still nothing above standard.
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Interesting you say you had a Grade 4 element from mining.
Was it pristine metal-rich and do you remember which system and which element ?
I was mining Yan Musu and Paesia pristine Icy, Rocky, Metal-Rich and Metalic. But never got above grade 3.
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I remembered an old Survey I did and updated my post to include it
Well Ill be dammed !
A grade 4 nice
You say Belt.
Sorry to ask and all that but do you mean Belt or did you mean Ring ?
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I hate the SRV. I really do. I hate doing prospecting in it most. Just thinking of it has ruined my Sunday. Thanks a lot.
I would rather be in Kansas.
Cheers Cmdr's
I would rather be in Kansas.
Cheers Cmdr's
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Well Ill be dammed !
A grade 4 nice
You say Belt.
Sorry to ask and all that but do you mean Belt or did you mean Ring ?
Oh, bad wording. All Samples were taken in Rings around Gas Giants.
Is this "out by one"?
You list, for example, Molybdenium as a Grade 4 product, and comment "Very Rare" byproduct... however Molybdenium "In Game" is "Rare" (but 'grade 4' as you say).
The grading ingame goes
1 - Very Common
2 - Common
3 - (no prefix)
4 - Rare
5 - Very rare
Unless you're referring to your experience of observation, in which case it's fine, just overloading terms confuses me XD
Thanks for the reply and info.
Very much appreciated.
Gona take my billions of credits and go drive a buggy for 1 week to find some elements.
Cause using the credits to buy some of the things I need would be silly. Right ?
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This just describes the yield of Elements during the Mining Trials.
On Grade 1, you just very often get a Very Common Element... Making it indeed "Very Common" there.
On Grade 2, you sometimes get a Common Element... making it "somewhat less common than its name would suggest" during Mining.
On Grade 3, you rarely get these in comparison to Grade 1 or 2, making it not a "normal" Element during Mining. Rather a somewhat rare one.
On Grade 4, you very rarely get this "Rare Element".
That's all it really means
Element description != Yield during Mining.
PS.
Arguably, Arsenic is a standard Element for example. But if you look around, it turns out it's more like a "Rare Element".
"Crystal Shards" for example is labeled a "Very Common Material". In-Game, however, it is a very rare Material (some other "Very Common" Mats share that same character).
Same for Cracked Industrial Firmware. In my books, that's definitely a Grade 5. Very, very rare Data.
