With the announcement of the Raspberry pi 2 which can run windows 10 - what are the chances of this being able to run Elite dangerous?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31088908
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31088908
General / Off-Topic raspberry Pi 2
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You were probably looking for a bit more detail, I suspect. Here goes:
"Pi 2 runs Windows 10" does not mean "Pi 2 can run anything that is on Windows". According to the scant information I've seen, it is Windows 10 IoT (Internet of Things) version, which there is currently little information about.
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Given that the IoT is supposedly going to comprise of relatively dumb devices, it suggests that the Win 10 version is just going to be a very, very light stripped down bare operating system offering the core components of Windows. If there is a graphical interface, it will likely be the same as you get on the cheaper Surface tablets - ie it can run some common apps, but not everything that a more expensive Surface tablet can. Quite simply - the ARM chip on the Pi cannot run X86 code used in PCs, Macs and expensive Surface tablets.
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That doesn't mean that Frontier couldn't build an ARM version. They could. They might want to, given David's involvement with the Pi, but the Pi 2 is not powerful enough to run the game to the standard of a desktop PC. Its graphics hardware isn't up to it, it has less RAM than PCs are running from and processing power (even with its 6 cores) is lower than many off the shelf mid-range laptops.
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Any version they produced for the Pi 2 would have to at the very least look considerably worse than the versions we all play and love. It is for that reason that I don't think it will happen.
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Edit:
You were probably looking for a bit more detail, I suspect. Here goes:
"Pi 2 runs Windows 10" does not mean "Pi 2 can run anything that is on Windows". According to the scant information I've seen, it is Windows 10 IoT (Internet of Things) version, which there is currently little information about.
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Given that the IoT is supposedly going to comprise of relatively dumb devices, it suggests that the Win 10 version is just going to be a very, very light stripped down bare operating system offering the core components of Windows. If there is a graphical interface, it will likely be the same as you get on the cheaper Surface tablets - ie it can run some common apps, but not everything that a more expensive Surface tablet can. Quite simply - the ARM chip on the Pi cannot run X86 code used in PCs, Macs and expensive Surface tablets.
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That doesn't mean that Frontier couldn't build an ARM version. They could. They might want to, given David's involvement with the Pi, but the Pi 2 is not powerful enough to run the game to the standard of a desktop PC. Its graphics hardware isn't up to it, it has less RAM than PCs are running from and processing power (even with its 6 cores) is lower than many off the shelf mid-range laptops.
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Any version they produced for the Pi 2 would have to at the very least look considerably worse than the versions we all play and love. It is for that reason that I don't think it will happen.
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Robert Maynard
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Rather excited at the new RPi2 - it's got 1GB RAM and a quad core ARM v7 cpu vs. 512MB RAM and a single ARM v6 core - and is supposed to be about 6 times more powerful than the RPiB+.
It's very interesting that it will run Windows 10 - cheap internet browsing / office applications "PCs" will make computer use even more widespread - just add an HDMI TV, keyboard, mouse and net connection.
I do not expect that it will be capable of running E: D - maybe in the future when we have the RPi3 or RPI4 with octa / hexadeca core CPU with improved graphics and significantly more RAM - RAM would seem to be the bigger issue going forward as the game due to the minimum GPU requirement. I wonder if Frontier's Cobra engine supports ARM - it probably does....
I'm expecting mine to arrive today - I'll be testing it with the new OpenELEC build....
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Robert Maynard
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This is why we need a wireframe option
Ooooh - I do like that idea!
Ian Phillips
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Moving this to Off topic.
If anyone thinks this should be in the Hardware forum, let me know.
If anyone thinks this should be in the Hardware forum, let me know.
This is why we need a wireframe option
http://kimondo.co.uk/elite-making-a-game-that-looks-as-good-as-the-box-art/
enjoy..
They could of course port the original/FE2/FFE to Arm
By the way the Windows 10 stuff I think means that you develop on a windows PC, then compile a "Universal App" which I think means it just compiles down to bytecode which I think (I don't know for sure) is kinda like Java - you have the Java Runtime on your system (Windows, Linux, phones can all have Java) and you can run the same Java app on all of those (in theory), you have the Windows 10 Runtime on your system and you can run W10 Universal Apps.
I do not think we will see a Windows 10 user-interface with a start menu etc for running any old stuff - it will just be something that sits on the existing system like Java does. Someone on ycombinator who claimed to be from RPi claimed that Raspian will continue to be the OS so that fits.
Even without any kind of Windows support (IoT or otherwise), RPi 2 will be a decent desktop machine for day to day stuff (browsing, email etc) using Raspian or the new Ubuntu ARM builds.
By the way the Windows 10 stuff I think means that you develop on a windows PC, then compile a "Universal App" which I think means it just compiles down to bytecode which I think (I don't know for sure) is kinda like Java - you have the Java Runtime on your system (Windows, Linux, phones can all have Java) and you can run the same Java app on all of those (in theory), you have the Windows 10 Runtime on your system and you can run W10 Universal Apps.
I do not think we will see a Windows 10 user-interface with a start menu etc for running any old stuff - it will just be something that sits on the existing system like Java does. Someone on ycombinator who claimed to be from RPi claimed that Raspian will continue to be the OS so that fits.
Even without any kind of Windows support (IoT or otherwise), RPi 2 will be a decent desktop machine for day to day stuff (browsing, email etc) using Raspian or the new Ubuntu ARM builds.
Being able to run Windows on it will be a big thing for a lot of people I reckon, it'll mean you can use one to Stream SkyGo too as currently Sky won't make it Linux compatible...the horrendous *insert swear word of choice*
