Reading glasses or what?

Para Handy

Para Handy
I have looked and hunted but can't really find an answer.

So basically, I have always thought the VR thingie would be useless to me since I have to wear reading glasses.

However with the current mega-sale I wonder if that is really the case.

I don't need glasses for distant vision but I do for close work - so what is the focus point / focal length (or whatever) in the Rift - is it right up close (like do you have to focus on the OLED display elements) or are the optics in the rift set for distant focus?

I'd be very happy to hear from people that use the Rift on this please.

Mal
 

TorTorden_VR

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Focus is distant.
So you should be ok.

I am the opposite, -4 myopic and need glasses for distance and vr.
If your not using the fat rimmed hipster goggles but something a bit slimmer wearing glasses isn't an issue.
Apart from having to put the hmd on in a certain way.
Directly face first, then slide the head band on.
 

Marklar_

Marklar_
You'll be fine, I don't remember the exact focal length but it's far enough away that you shouldn't have trouble focusing. I don't have bifocals (yet) but I actually need them, but I have no problems with VR due to being unable to focus close-in.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
TorTorden said:
Focus is distant.
So you should be ok.

I am the opposite, -4 myopic and need glasses for distance and vr.
If your not using the fat rimmed hipster goggles but something a bit slimmer wearing glasses isn't an issue.
Apart from having to put the hmd on in a certain way.
Directly face first, then slide the head band on.
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Marklar4408 said:
You'll be fine, I don't remember the exact focal length but it's far enough away that you shouldn't have trouble focusing. I don't have bifocals (yet) but I actually need them, but I have no problems with VR due to being unable to focus close-in.
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Asp Explorer said:
It's a bit sad - I've noticed myself that ever since I hit 41 close-up work on PCB's has been getting blurrier and blurrier
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VR still works fine though
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Thanks for the speedy responses - that's £399.99 gone out of my account now! ;)

I am lucky to have good distance vision, just the age-related reading (and PC) distance specs needed so I hope to see what everyone has been raving about soon.

(Mind you I used Amazon so if I can't "be doing with it" then I should be OK for a return.)

Rep to all for the speed of reply, cheers.
 
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Orvidius

Orvidius
MalcYorks said:
I am lucky to have good distance vision, just the age-related reading (and PC) distance specs needed so I hope to see what everyone has been raving about soon.
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If your distance vision is good, then VR will look good, even with things that are nearby in the virtual environment. The HMD resolution is less of an issue for large/nearby objects, so you might be pleasantly surprised at how good everything looks when it's close to you. When you get your Rift, be sure to play through the demo/tutorial in the RV with all the '80s era electronics strewn about. When I bought mine, that demo/tutorial blew me away.
 

Whiteball

Whiteball
TorTorden said:
Focus is distant.
So you should be ok.

...snip

Apart from having to put the hmd on in a certain way.
Directly face first, then slide the head band on.
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I wear glasses and actually find it easier to put the strap behind my head first and pull the unit out on the spring tensioners and over my face and then let it back in.
 

Ulysses_W

Ulysses_W
One thing to note, however. When you first don your Rift and jump into your cockpit for the first time, be prepared to do naff all for the next 20 minutes while you gaze around in awe at your ships interior and the insides of a Station and be sure to have a tissue handy. (For the dribble of course ;) )
 

Shanaeri

Shanaeri
I used these guys to make me some custom lenses for my Vive. https://vr-lens-lab.com/

They work brilliantly and they now do an occulus version. Tbh i'd never wear glasses inside my headset, because firstly they restrict the FoV and second I don't want the headset lenses scratched
 

Terranoks

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I'll get back to this ... Just ordered the Oculus because of their Summer Sale. I am facing the same problem. My Oculus-unit is to arrive in about a week, so very excited.

Being 57 I cannot read sh*t on a screen and I am wearing tri-focals so I don't need to take of my glasses just to walk around the office. It would be a dream to be able not to have to wear glasses when playing Elite ... up till now, I simply had to in order to be able to read the text.

As I said, I will be back with my experiences.

o7 Commanders.
 

Thespen Tombs

Thespen Tombs
MalcYorks said:
Thanks for the speedy responses - that's £399.99 gone out of my account now! ;)

I am lucky to have good distance vision, just the age-related reading (and PC) distance specs needed so I hope to see what everyone has been raving about soon.

(Mind you I used Amazon so if I can't "be doing with it" then I should be OK for a return.)

Rep to all for the speed of reply, cheers.
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Please post after you have used it telling us if you get by without any glasses


Terranoks said:
I'll get back to this ... Just ordered the Oculus because of their Summer Sale. I am facing the same problem. My Oculus-unit is to arrive in about a week, so very excited.

Being 57 I cannot read sh*t on a screen and I am wearing tri-focals so I don't need to take of my glasses just to walk around the office. It would be a dream to be able not to have to wear glasses when playing Elite ... up till now, I simply had to in order to be able to read the text.

As I said, I will be back with my experiences.

o7 Commanders.
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I look forward to your post

Thespen
 
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Reido

Reido
Just thought I'd add my 2 cents here on my experience so far.

I've had my HTC Vive for about a week now, and when I first started using it, I tried it with and without my reading glasses and found that it was slightly sharper with my glasses.

I was however starting to get a little annoyed at having to wipe my glasses off every time I took the HMD off. While my glasses didn't touch the HMD lenses, the gasket tended to push the glasses into my face as they just barely fit inside.

During my session last night, I was determined to try and get a good view without using my reading glasses. At first I noticed that the text was the clearest on the top half of the display and I'd have to tilt my head down to be able to read the COMMS text. After adjusting the straps thinking that the display might be tilted slightly on my face I realized that if I rolled my eyes up that all I could see was screen and no border and there was plenty of border if I rolled my eyes down to the bottom. Once I move the entire display down on my face...BAM, the sweet spot was right in the center of my vision and it was just as clear as it was when I was using my reading glasses. I'm now a happy camper :)

I also learned that in order to drink my gin and tonic that I need to use a straw :D

CMDR Andrew Reid
 

TorTorden_VR

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Reido said:
Just thought I'd add my 2 cents here on my experience so far.

I've had my HTC Vive for about a week now, and when I first started using it, I tried it with and without my reading glasses and found that it was slightly sharper with my glasses.

I was however starting to get a little annoyed at having to wipe my glasses off every time I took the HMD off. While my glasses didn't touch the HMD lenses, the gasket tended to push the glasses into my face as they just barely fit inside.

During my session last night, I was determined to try and get a good view without using my reading glasses. At first I noticed that the text was the clearest on the top half of the display and I'd have to tilt my head down to be able to read the COMMS text. After adjusting the straps thinking that the display might be tilted slightly on my face I realized that if I rolled my eyes up that all I could see was screen and no border and there was plenty of border if I rolled my eyes down to the bottom. Once I move the entire display down on my face...BAM, the sweet spot was right in the center of my vision and it was just as clear as it was when I was using my reading glasses. I'm now a happy camper :)

I also learned that in order to drink my gin and tonic that I need to use a straw :D

CMDR Andrew Reid
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Indeed, vertical Pupilary focus is as important as the horizontal IPD.
My sweet spot is also so low, my nose is completely inside either HMD and the edge is barely above my upper lip.
Only way I can drink anything is via straws or very long necked bottles.

Glasses in my experience is also focusing light from various angles into your sweetspot so finding the sweet spot with glasses is quite fruitless.
So I use the fit I found while using contacts, even though I'm mostly just wearing glasses (myopic, can't see anything without them).

At first I might have used a far too wide IPD setting since my glasses just corrected, that would explain how first impressions etc was so off.
Having IPD of 7mm when I'm actually a 6.4mm :p
 
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Frank

Frank
MalcYorks said:
Thanks for the speedy responses - that's £399.99 gone out of my account now! ;)

I am lucky to have good distance vision, just the age-related reading (and PC) distance specs needed so I hope to see what everyone has been raving about soon.

(Mind you I used Amazon so if I can't "be doing with it" then I should be OK for a return.)

Rep to all for the speed of reply, cheers.
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Just £399.99. You got yourself a bargain there <grin>
Remember and come back to this thread to say how you got on.
 

Orvidius

Orvidius
Reido said:
Once I move the entire display down on my face...BAM, the sweet spot was right in the center of my vision and it was just as clear as it was when I was using my reading glasses. I'm now a happy camper :)
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Yeah, I think a lot of people overlook this. I've had to get used to the idea of my nose being completely inside the headset. It's designed to center over the eyes, and use the cheekbones for support.. I think it's best to think of it like a diving mask, the kind that cover your nose.

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