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Alacrity

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I have seen how E:D has advanced over the past few years, and would like to play it. The last time I played Elite was on an Apple 2e in the early 1980s!.:rolleyes:

I would like to obtain a system that I can just play on. I would not want it to stutter, not interested in streaming or VR. The system will be used for E:D. I am very confused as to where to start and what I am looking at - never had water cooling in my day! I have no idea what cores are or anything else for that matter.

I just need a computer, monitor and keyboard (if this is passable).

Any ideas would be appreciated - especially if there is a components list please.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Zeeman

Zeeman
Currently building a second games PC, aimed at ED and DCS.

Intel i7 6700
Asus B150M Pro Gaming
16 GB Ram (2133mhz)
Samsung Evo 950 240GB
Corsair RM550X Power supply
Asus GTX1080 Strix

Monitor is my 55" 4k Sony TV, and looking at a Vive or Rift

Warthog will be used for control, and a VKB T-rudder mkIII. WIll use a CH Pro throttle for the... Erm..
Throttle.

Z...
 

AdamDZ

AdamDZ
I suggest searching AnandTech and Ars Technica. They both run features from time to time how to build a gaming PC: low end, midrange, high end and a God Box. A midrange gaming PC with a 24" monitor will run ED well. It is not very demanding, at least not now. Those builds are usually under $1,000.

I'm myself in in the Intel/Nvidia camp. Do not care much for AMD. Speaking of stuttering: if you have the budget I strongly recommend a GSYNC monitor. GSYNC is the biggest thing for me since SSDs. Once you see a game running on a variable sync monitor you can't go back to fixed Hz :D Also, GSYNC is somewhat more advanced than Freesync but it does lock you into to the Nvidia hardware. If you ever decide to go AMD you'd need a new monitor. The opposite is true too, however.

I've been building PCs of over a decade. I will be happy to come up with a detailed list of parts for you if you tell me what the budget is. I love parts shopping! You do not need watercooling. Keep it simple. But I like I said, I know little about AMD these days. I lost interest in their stuff. I have nothing against AMD as a company. I don't get involved in that fanboyism silliness, too old for that, it's just Intel and Nvidia work better for me.

Adam

Edit: I shortened the post, I'm still waking up, you're obviously asking about a PC build, not a Mac :D
 
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Dad Rock

Dad Rock
Zeeman said:
Currently building a second games PC, aimed at ED and DCS.

Intel i7 6700
Asus B150M Pro Gaming
16 GB Ram (2133mhz)
Samsung Evo 950 240GB
Corsair RM550X Power supply
Asus GTX1080 Strix

Monitor is my 55" 4k Sony TV, and looking at a Vive or Rift

Warthog will be used for control, and a VKB T-rudder mkIII. WIll use a CH Pro throttle for the... Erm..
Throttle.

Z...
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That is one sweet setup, man...
 

AdamDZ

AdamDZ
Zeeman said:
Currently building a second games PC, aimed at ED and DCS.

Intel i7 6700
Asus B150M Pro Gaming
16 GB Ram (2133mhz)
Samsung Evo 950 240GB
Corsair RM550X Power supply
Asus GTX1080 Strix

Z...
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Yup. That'd work nicely, but it's somewhat on the higher end. If you can do this though, just add a GSYNC monitor and you'll be in gaming heaven. You might consider a larger M.2 SSD though. I have the 512GB Samsung 950Pro M.2 NVM SSD. The one that comes on a tiny stick that plugs directly to the motherboard. Those things are silly fast, over 2GB/s. I use it as my C drive ad have my games on it. 240-256GB is enough for Windows and ED, but if you ever decide to install more games you may need more space.
 
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Dad Rock

Dad Rock
Alacrity said:
I have seen how E:D has advanced over the past few years, and would like to play it. The last time I played Elite was on an Apple 2e in the early 1980s!.:rolleyes:

I would like to obtain a system that I can just play on. I would not want it to stutter, not interested in streaming or VR. The system will be used for E:D. I am very confused as to where to start and what I am looking at - never had water cooling in my day! I have no idea what cores are or anything else for that matter.

I just need a computer, monitor and keyboard (if this is passable).

Any ideas would be appreciated - especially if there is a components list please.

Thank you in advance.
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It depends what your budget is. I've had the following gaming PC on my wishlist for a while now. They're selling it as the gaming pc for Eve:Valkyrie, but I reckon that'd do just fine for E: D as well. The specs might give you an idea and you can work your way down (or up) in terms of components:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-systems/gaming-pc/pcs-by-game/eve-valkyrie

Hope it helps.
 

AdamDZ

AdamDZ
Baba_Ghannoush said:
It depends what your budget is. I've had the following gaming PC on my wishlist for a while now. They're selling it as the gaming pc for Eve:Valkyrie, but I reckon that'd do just fine for E: D as well. The specs might give you an idea and you can work your way down (or up) in terms of components:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-systems/gaming-pc/pcs-by-game/eve-valkyrie

Hope it helps.
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Except you don't want GTX980Ti any more. You want to replace that with GTX1070 which is now cheaper and faster. Core i5 would be adequate and this should be able able to drive a 27" monitor at 60+ FPS. That would be a good midrange system.

But yeah, Alacrity, we need to know your budget for this. You can go as low as $500 or as high at $3000+. You can build a decent system at various price points depending on how large of a monitor you desire and what your idea of performance is. Some people are happy with 40-60FPS some desire more than 60FPS. Also, I'm in the US so I'm speaking dollars :D
 
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AdamDZ

AdamDZ
BigBANGtheory said:
personally I wouldn't touch a GTX1080 atm until we have seen the price/performance of HBM2 hardware on the GPUs, I think its overpriced
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There will be something faster, always. So you either get the fastest video card now and enjoy your games NOW, or wait for something faster. This way you will wait forever. Besides, Nvidia made huge improvements to their memory architecture so HBM2 advantage is not so significant right now.
 

Alacrity

A
Hello,

Thank you for the pointers. It cannot cost too much as the other half will go spare for me to acquire a system for a game. I will have consider the above, but the budget will be approx. £600. I was also considering obtaining parts from the US - but not sure if they are guaranteed to work.

K.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
It all depends on your budget and the screen resolution you want to use.

My setup currently runs on an i5-4690k with a GTX960 GPU, all air cooled (you don't need water cooling any more, at least not until you want to start some serious overclocking), on an Asus motherboard (which permits some moderate overclocking without any hassles - you just have to select it) and a 29" LG ultrawide display (2560x1080).
Runs smooth (~60 fps) on in-game "high" settings.

I built the computer myself because I wanted a few specifics, but the core setup is boilerplate - you can get something like this (current spec would be like i5-6something CPU, GTX1060 GPU, SSD) from basically any seller ready to play. The only problem here might be that (at least those I can see at the moment at this one seller) those come with a small (i.e. 128 GB) SSD, which I'd consider marginal to hold both the OS and the user/game data.

If you want to build it yourself, that one here is a decent starting point to give you some basic ideas: https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/CRRscf/modest-gaming-build

I would replace the Radeon graphics card with a GTX1060, though, and use 'plain' RAM, like Kingstone ValueRAM. If your budget stretches to a dedicated cooler, I like the Cryorig C1, although you'd have to check whether that would fit inside the uATX case.

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Ok, just read the part about your budget - that's going to be tough. You'll have to compromise on some end, and you'll need to decide on which.
 
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AdamDZ

AdamDZ
Alacrity said:
Hello,

Thank you for the pointers. It cannot cost too much as the other half will go spare for me to acquire a system for a game. I will have consider the above, but the budget will be approx. £600. I was also considering obtaining parts from the US - but not sure if they are guaranteed to work.

K.
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They will work. Power Supplies are switchable to 220V and everything else runs off of DC from the power supply. The only issue is that you may not be able to obtain warranty service.

£600 is something like $1000? I'm not sure what the prices are in the UK but you will need to shoot for Core i5 and a midrange video card then. Take Zeeman's system and replace the CPU with Core i5-6500 and either GTX1060 or GTX1070. I'd also stick to 24" display in this price range as you may not get satisfying FPS on a 27" screen. You can also cut costs by getting a standard SATA SSD. The real life difference is not huge. Whatever you do, do not get a hard drive:) Try to get GSYNC monitor too, the difference is really incredible.

EDIT: Ah, that's $800. Tight. You won't be able to squeeze a GSYNC display, or even any display, in that budget :( Best I can come up with is around $800 without monitor.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=35914647
 
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Zeeman

Zeeman
AdamDZ said:
Yup. That'd work nicely, but it's somewhat on the higher end. If you can do this though, just add a GSYNC monitor and you'll be in gaming heaven. You might consider a larger M.2 SSD though. I have the 512GB Samsung 950Pro M.2 NVM SSD. The one that comes on a tiny stick that plugs directly to the motherboard. Those things are silly fast, over 2GB/s. I use it as my C drive ad have my games on it. 240-256GB is enough for Windows and ED, but if you ever decide to install more games you may need more space.
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I actually went low end on the mobo to throw cash at the GPU - the problem with a G-sync monitor, is I literally have nowhere to put it.

I live in two countries (Australia and the Philippines) and my current gamer is an Asus Ranger VII, with a 4690K, 16MB ram (1600MhZ), 240 GB SSD (sata) and a GTX970, with a Corsair CX650M power supply. I bought the CPU and motherboard second hand at the time, so the whole lot was not much over $1k AU.

Anyway, our place in the Phils is very small, so everything needs a dual purpose - the PC monitor needs to be the TV - simply nowhere else to put it. The coffee table, I am going to design to open up into a cockpit, with HOTAS and pedals hidden within.

Luckily, labour for building furniture here is quite inexpensive, that would cost an absolute bomb back in Sydney...


If there is a budget, I'd try and go for a high end higher older gen system second hand - my Sydney system, as above, runs ED very well, no lack of grunt, and the whole thing would be worth about $AU700 second hand now, thanks to the tumbling pric eof the older gen graphics cards.
Z...
 
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STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
AdamDZ said:
There will be something faster, always. So you either get the fastest video card now and enjoy your games NOW, or wait for something faster. This way you will wait forever. Besides, Nvidia made huge improvements to their memory architecture so HBM2 advantage is not so significant right now.
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what with moores law back in full swing(some say it stalled) and with carbon nanotube processors on the way we will shortly look back on how slow a 1080 actually was, silicone substrate is old tec :D
 
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