Recommendations for VR Setups to Enhance Elite Dangerous Experience - Emmanuel Katto

Hello All,

I hope you’re all enjoying your time in the vast universe of Elite Dangerous! My name is Emmanuel Katto. I’m a newcomer to the game and am eager to dive into the experience using virtual reality. However, I’m a bit overwhelmed by the various VR headset options available and how to set them up properly for the best gaming experience.

Here are a few specific questions I have:
  1. What VR headsets do you all recommend for playing Elite Dangerous?
  2. For those of you using VR, what kind of PC specifications are necessary to run Elite Dangerous smoothly in VR? Are there any graphics settings or tweaks you suggest for optimizing performance?
  3. How do you find the controls in VR? Are there specific flight sticks or controllers that enhance immersion and control in the game?
Thank you in advance,
Emmanuel Katto
 
Hello Emmanuel, welcome to Elite Dangerous.

Playing ED in VR is a very immersive experience, the scale of ships, stations and asteroid fields for example is very different in VR than playing in 2D. The only downside is anything on foot is 2D only within the VR headset, and the resolution then deteriorates quite badly. A common complaint from players.

I use a Meta Quest 3 headset. I use to have a HP Reverb G2, but now prefer the Q3. Your choice of headset is not easy, and you will get many different opinions here. Probably your budget will point you in a direction of which headset to buy, all will give you a good experience.

ED in VR is very demanding on both CPU & GPU, so once again the bigger your budget the better game performance will be. I suggest you set a minimum GPU memory (VRAM) limit of 16GB and there are some issues with Radeon cards noted throughout these forums, so maybe a Nvidia card would be wise. For CPU's (Intel or AMD) doesn't really matter other than better is best once again.

You really will need a HOTAS for ED in VR with as many buttons as possible.

Good luck.
 
  1. What VR headsets do you all recommend for playing Elite Dangerous?
I use a Reverb G2, which is a very good headset for its price and age, but I wouldn't recommend buying one, or any Windows Mixed Reality headset. WMR is a dead platform, and WMR headsets are in danger of not working anymore in future Windows releases. I can't really recommend any other headset though because I'm very content with my G2 for now, so I'm not up to date with the market right now. Just don't invest in anything WMR.

  1. For those of you using VR, what kind of PC specifications are necessary to run Elite Dangerous smoothly in VR? Are there any graphics settings or tweaks you suggest for optimizing performance?
This is highly dependant on the headset and platform you use. For one, different headsets have different resolutions both physical and in terms of the render resoluion necessary, different refresh rates, and different platforms (SteamVR, Oculus, OpenXR) may show different performance too. What I can tell you: I run ED on my G2 through SteamvR, with the resolution set to 50%, on a Ryzen 9 5900X and a 3080 Ti. I get full framerate in outer space (90 fps), but reprojection (i.e. the framerate is halved and the system kind of interpolates the missing frames) when things get busy or in and around stations. My settings are a mix of high and ultra settings, with a few mediums sprinkled in. For me with my headset and my personal requirements, this gives a very enjoyable playing experience.

There are some people who claim they crank everything to ultra at ludicrous resolutions and never get any reprojection, but I would not believe that. Be prepared that you might need a lot of tinkering to get an enjoyable experience. And don't cheap out on the CPU, as @DeckerSolo said ED is kind of a CPU hog, just a beefy GPU will not cut it.

  1. How do you find the controls in VR? Are there specific flight sticks or controllers that enhance immersion and control in the game?
I fly with two VKB EVO sticks, one normal for the right hand (pitch, roll and yaw), and an Omni Throttle for the left hand (thruster control) - between the two sticks, I have all the buttons I need at my fingertips. Flying with HOTAS or HOSAS is the way in VR if you want full immersion, but I guess a controller will work too. Not so sure about keyboard controls in VR, as you're blind to the keyboard, and there are a lot of controls.

For the on foot part of the game I use keyboard and mouse. Also, be aware that on foot is not displayed in VR. You get a virtual 2D screen in your VR headset when you disembark.

In general, if you get bitten by the VR bug, things can get expensive very quickly :). Some people make it work with modest rigs on lower resolution headsets at lower quality, but the danger of wanting "more" is very real ;).
 
I'll preface what I'm about to type by saying I am very happy with my (lower end VR) setup; but like many here (I'm guessing) it took a LOT of playing about with the settings and third party apps to get a balance I am satisfied with in regards to quality and performance in ED.

1. What VR headsets do you all recommend for playing Elite Dangerous?
I have no personal recommendation that is an absolute, but I can tell you I am very happy with my Quest 2. I believe I would be very happy with a Quest 3 too ... and probably a Pimax or a Varjo or ... budget and available PC performance will be your deciding factors here. You'll have to consider if your PC can handle running the headset you want to buy and will you be updating your PC in the future to get the most out of your Headset etc. One good things is that AFAIK, all the headsets can be adjusted to accomadate higher or lower performance.

2. For those of you using VR, what kind of PC specifications are necessary to run Elite Dangerous smoothly in VR? Are there any graphics settings or tweaks you suggest for optimizing performance?
This will depend on your headset, but the short answer is "the best hardware you can afford". I happily run a Ryzen 5600x (Overclocked) with a 3060ti (Overclocked) with 32GB of ram. Would I like better? Oh hell yes. Elite Dangerous, especially the 4.0 engine likes VRAM, so while I am happy with my settings and setup, I do find myself occasionally running medium textures just to give my 8GB gfx card a little headroom, usually when in open on a Thursday morning Invasion ground port. Also at Spires I can get stutters with high textures vs medium. Most anything else, I can run a mixture of high and medium settings, with a few things like bloom and blur switched off, which do little for VR visuals anyway. ED is also partial to CPU cache, so the Ryzen x3D CPU's do a lot for framerates on planet surfaces and on-foot I believe (someone correct me if I am wrong) and should therefore be beneficial for VR gameplay too. Keep in mind that Odyssey on-foot switches to a floating cinema screen rather than the usual 360 view you get in vehicles which also helps performance depending on your setup. Depending on what hardware/headset you get, OpenComposite can be a big help in regards to framerates compared to SteamVR. Shout out to Virtual Desktop for Oculus users as well, tho I personally prefer the visuals of a link cable.

3. How do you find the controls in VR? Are there specific flight sticks or controllers that enhance immersion and control in the game?
The thing with VR is that you can't (easily) see your physical controls, so you'll want as many buttons as possible at your fingertips. Can you play it with an Xbox controller in VR? Sure, I know at least one guy who plays in VR with an Xbox controller, and plays it very well and enjoys it a lot. Same goes for keyboard and mouse which many would argue is the only way to excel in ED combat. But for me, the point of VR is more immersion, so I'd add a HOTAS setup to your budget as well if you don't already have one; it's not essential, but I would describe it as preferred. Look into Voice Attack and add some voice control to your game, this can help a lot, and if you do add Voice Attack, you should probably check out HCS Voice Packs. Things like ED Copilot and EDDI are also great in VR. For my setup, I also made a DIY Button box using some cheap arcade joystick parts and a plastic box, all bought from Amazon and cost less than £40 all in; has 11 buttons and the joystick which I use as poor mans landing gear switch (although I may swap the joystick for a guitar selector which should give me a more satisfying feeling landing gear feel). For actual main controls I use a TWCS throttle and a VKB Gladiator NXT. I am personally considering a VKB STECS or a going HOSAS with another VKB Gladiator. Virpil are also a popular choice. Winwing* and some Thrustmaster joystick setups are named a lot too. Even a Thrustmaster Hotas X can add to your VR fun, but IMO you would quickly outgrow it.

tl:dr - You can do VR in ED with a midrange system and a quest 2 to save money, but the better your system is, the better/easier your experience will be in VR regardless of your headset, which in turn may dictate how much money you have to spend on the headset itself. So much like when asking what monitor to get, everyone will respond with "what gfx card/pc do you have? Budget?". :)

*there seems to be some controversy about their latest ursa minor being a copy of the VKB joysticks, at least under the hood, but they are cheaper, but not enough in my opinion to sway me from VKB.
 
Soooo VR. Read all you like plot, plan, save, read and then…. Well the thing is the very best day you’ll have in VR is the first one. Many of us here started on V1 headsets with low end PCs and got blown away. You’re flying a spaceship!!!!!! In my ASPx I got up out of my chair and walked behind to the hole and ladder in the floor so I could peer down to the lower deck, that really hurt as when I leaned down peering into the lower deck I whacked my head against my bedroom wall.

As the world of tech progressed new graphics cards and V2 headsets started to get released along with more powerful processors so you upgrade. I got the Quest 2 as it’s wireless and I liked that. In my T9 looking over my shoulders left and right are corridors, before when I was tethered there was no way I was able to get into them but now, wireless I could. Gingerly I got up, walked back and - thankfully in the real world I also have a real corridor in my house - stepped into the corridor. Framerates held, connection was good, I walked along the corridor in my T9 and then Arggghhh ran out of house. I was in the spare bedroom pressed against the wall as far as I could go.

Everything you do in VR in Elite in your space ship and SRV is Fantastic. From craning you head back and forth to see the ship that’s attacking you to entering a space station are just jaw dropping oh and mining wow, mining is awesome. But it’s best the first time and for that you don’t need the best of the best, just look at what you can afford, post the specs here and you’ll be guided to a successful VR experience, don’t get caught up in the hype of needing to sell your kidneys to get emershun.

All that said after three odd years of flying one day I just quit. Stopped wanting to get in a spaceship and started to want to sit in my office and play Elite on a screen. Don’t regret any of it and it’s all sitting there waiting for me should I want to get back in the seat. Point being as long as you enjoy yourself don’t worry and certainly don’t go broke trying to do what some YouTuber tells you is unmissable.
 
Thought I'd pop in and add my experience. I've been playing ED from the beginning, as soon as VR was possible, I was in and have never played it in 2d since (apart from on foot, wish they'd fix that).
My current rig is coming to an end and I plan to build a new one before Oct (win 10 end), so this is what I have right now...

1080Ti WF Aorus. Yes, I know, A 1080Ti! but it's a fantastic GPU. Got it when it came out new from a market in Taiwan whilst on business and it mined it's value very quickly when I was not gaming.
CPU i7 8700k
MB: z370 Aorus Gaming 7
VR Oculus rift. The original, still works very well indeed.
All water cooled and bolted to copper plates on my wall.

Now this spec is low I know that, but I run VR in medium these days, mainly to prevent crashes, but I'm right out there ATM and there's only me buzzing around. It's still fantastic and immersing. Beautiful to look at, the upgrade I do, I'm hoping will see me good for another 7 years!

My upgrade will be;
4090wf Aorus (I could back down on this, but sod it, I love the Aorus GPU)
i712700k. (jury is out on that one, may increase that as time goes by)
MB: z690 gigabyte gaming X DDR5
VR Valve index (most likely) I keep seeing new ones come out, but this one seems to be the one to go for.

I will be getting a new PSU, mines worn now and new memory ect
My old build cost me £2092
this build will cost me £2999

Thought I'd put what I have on here in case someone chips in with NOOOO or Why don't you.... or Sounds about right etc...

One bit of advice I'd give and most do, take it slow with ED in VR to start with. Go solo, somewhere on your own for 15mins, then stop. Then next day do another 15mins etc... built up before you start slamming into battles. you will puke.
 
I just got sucked in..I love elite in VR. I play on foot using a 4k monitor and head tracking so that's that solved.
But for ship to ship, or Srv it's always VR. Even my partner has the bug having seen it and now she has her own rig right opposite mine.
Like everyone else my rig is dictated by price, and my personal elite insanity. There's no other words for it. Shelling out to get what l wanted.

So here's my spec.

Pimax crystal light (one of the best headsets you can buy)
Rtx 3090fe 24 gig monster gpu.
7800x3d cpu
Amd board gen 5 (i think!?)
64 gig DDR5 RAM (2 sticks)
Virpil constellation alpha prime twin sticks. Left one right angled.

I'm in heaven!
Just no compromise at all. Full tilt all the settings maxed 100% res in pimaxs own VR settings.
No reprojection no lag, just 100% joy.
Yeah l shelled out a small fortune.
And l do not regret it one bit.
 
I agree been playing VR consitently since I came back from a break.
Its brilliant shame about on foot, I too have a 34" widescreen 4k. I just dont like swapping.

My setup is in my sig.
But here it is just incase my sig changes :)

VR. Quest2
RTX 4070ti, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32gRam, 1x 1TM.2NVMe for games and 1 for windows.
Dual VKB sticks, VKB pedals, Logitec KBM.

There are still a quite a few bug and qol life things Elite could fix for VR not counting making the on foot work.
 
I think the point is this, if you really really love elite in VR you'll do wotever it takes to get the best experience your wallet can suffer. And let's be honest that's the only boundary.
VR needs alot of horsepower to make it work. But once your there... nothing comes close...truly nothing!
 
I have quest 2 and a saitek x52pro HOTAS, it matches up with the in game joystick. I highly recommend giving CQC a go in VR, its a steep curve but just so much fun.
I have yet to find any VR game that even approaches Elite for quality. See you out there!
o7 Cmdr micmacmoc
 
I just got sucked in..I love elite in VR. I play on foot using a 4k monitor and head tracking so that's that solved.
But for ship to ship, or Srv it's always VR. Even my partner has the bug having seen it and now she has her own rig right opposite mine.
Like everyone else my rig is dictated by price, and my personal elite insanity. There's no other words for it. Shelling out to get what l wanted.

So here's my spec.

Pimax crystal light (one of the best headsets you can buy)
Rtx 3090fe 24 gig monster gpu.
7800x3d cpu
Amd board gen 5 (i think!?)
64 gig DDR5 RAM (2 sticks)
Virpil constellation alpha prime twin sticks. Left one right angled.

I'm in heaven!
Just no compromise at all. Full tilt all the settings maxed 100% res in pimaxs own VR settings.
No reprojection no lag, just 100% joy.
Yeah l shelled out a small fortune.
And l do not regret it one bit.
I've not seen the primax before, just looked it up. Looks very cool, that will go on my list of VRs to consider for sure. Odd that they keep the price down with a subscription to the software, but I guess it eases the cost somewhat. You do have the option to buy the software in one go though. I assume if you subscribe, you end up owning the software after 2 years.
 
I'm awaiting the launch of the Nvidia 50 series, then the 4090 will go down a bit in price. Saw it at CES, looks amazing, I'll know I'll be like £2000......hmmmm, but it's soooo good.
 
Hey CMDRs,

I got into VR myself a few weeks ago and it has been a lot of learning to make the most of it.

I got myself a Bigscreen Beyond, running it on a i5-12600K, 32GB DDR4 and RTX 4070.
The Beyond being 2560x2560 per eye, and actually 3560x3560 if you run it at 100% resolution in SteamVR, is VERY demanding of your hardware.
Pretty much unplayable for me unless I turn down the resolution to 2360x2360 in SteamVR. Then I can use the HighVR settings in Elite and be OK for exploring space scenarios.
Technically speaking, a 4K monitor renders about 8.3M pixels whereas a Beyond would be 26.6M!

I'm definitely looking at the new RTX 5XXX series and likely selling one of my kidney to get it, oh well :cry:
I wonder if my CPU will manage if I get a 5090, I have not found a lot of information around this yet.

Curious to hear others in terms of performance compared to other games.
For me E:D is definitely the most demanding, so far, I have been able to HL Alyx at 100% resolution no problem.
I also tried Everspace and the performance was pretty bad, also had to drop resolution and graphic details.
Maybe this is an issue with space/flight simulator stuff? I have not tested the flight simulator games yet.

But yeah, as everyone said, playing E:D in VR is awesome, really like a rebirth of the game for me!
 
The RTX 5090 is only giving about 27% more performance than a RTX 4090, most of the reviews give the 5090 a thumbs down for value for money v performance gained.
I use a 4090 and won't be rushing to buy a 5090 because the 4090 gives me no performance issues in VR anywhere.
My system Ryzen 9 7950x3d, 64GB DDR5, RTX 4090, Quest 3 @ 100% resolution 2,064 x 2,208 pixels per eye, ED at max settings
 
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The RTX 5090 is only giving about 27% more performance than a RTX 4090, most of the reviews give the 5090 a thumbs down for value for money v performance gained.
I use a 4090 and won't be rushing to buy a 5090 because the 4090 gives me no performance issues in VR anywhere.
My system Ryzen 9 7950x3d, 64GB DDR5, RTX 4090, Quest 3 @ 100% resolution 2,064 x 2,208 pixels per eye, ED at max settings
How are the finding the Quest 3? I've heard people saying it crashes a fair bit. Now I did have that with my Oculus rift for some time and it was quite irritating but it is now very stable. I agree about the 5090, I'm hoping as it's now launched the price of the 4090 will drop a bit. My eye is firmly on the 4090WF from Aorus. I've used the 1080Ti WF for years now and cannot knock it, in fact, it still has quite some value and still kicks . Stepping up to the 4090 will make a difference and the 5090 is a step too far in price. Also looks like the 4090 will still beat the 5070 or anything but the 5090, quite amazing considering how old the 4090 is now.
 
How are the finding the Quest 3? I've heard people saying it crashes a fair bit. Now I did have that with my Oculus rift for some time and it was quite irritating but it is now very stable. I agree about the 5090, I'm hoping as it's now launched the price of the 4090 will drop a bit. My eye is firmly on the 4090WF from Aorus. I've used the 1080Ti WF for years now and cannot knock it, in fact, it still has quite some value and still kicks . Stepping up to the 4090 will make a difference and the 5090 is a step too far in price. Also looks like the 4090 will still beat the 5070 or anything but the 5090, quite amazing considering how old the 4090 is now.
I have had no problems with my Q3 at all, it performs perfectly for my needs. I really like its WiFi capability.

I can't remember the exact figures but the performance increase of the 4090 over its predecessor the 3090 (which I still have on my spare system) is very high, something like over 50% I think, which makes the performance increase of just 27% of the 5090 over the 4090 disappointing, particularly at a 2K price premium. The 4090 is more than enough to run ED, hopefully 4090 prices will drop.
 
I recently got a 4080S and it plays buttery smooth. VR Ultra @ 90FPS 125% no problems, may try to see if I can get 150% working. Now mind you I am virtually immune to motion sickness so don't really notice things like dropped frames. I also turn off all performance overlays as I want to play instead of tinkering with the settings all the bloody time to try and squeeze out one more frame.
 
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