Reinstalling Windows has been a REVOLUTION to my gaming performance

Hi,

I cannot, simply CAN. NOT. stress enough how much of a difference reinstalling windows was for my graphics performance. Not only has it fixed lots of random issues which I will go into, but it has increase my performance by 50-100%. NO. EXAGGERATION. We all know that a reinstall can help, I had no idea that it would be this much, so I hadn't really done it.

The last time I installed Windows was Windows 7, a good 5 years ago. Since then I've upgraded to 8, to 10, done roll backs, had all sorts of issues that I've fixed, but I've never taken the plunge and reinstalled windows fresh.

My performance increase with buying an 1080 and an i7 7700K was big. I was happy with it. I was a little sad that it still wasn't enough to get things exactly as I liked them in VR, but I thought well that's where the technology is right now. Also, I often had lots of issues with lots of games. My PC had this tendency to get to a state where it was performing worse in games after being on for a while, and relogging would smooth it out. I'd get freezes and microstuttering in some games. Some emulators wouldn't work like they were supposed to. A picture started to build up that other people with my rig and worse were getting better performance. Many issues I googled ended up being only me.

Well the clincher was my Oculus Rift starting to stutter sporadically. It started slowly, only occasionally happening, with a restart or relog fixing it for a while. It was in Elite, Space Engine, and more. Then it would happen more, then eventually after a few months it got to the point it would happen over 50% of the time and sometimes relogging wouldn't even fix it.

This was just another step in the same story - I posted online asking around if anyone had the issue, and nobody really had, tried the basic things like clean Nvidia drivers install, clean oculus install. I got busy with Oculus support, tried everything they suggested, they even replaced it in the end! The new one had the same issue!

That was it, time for a fresh windows reinstall.

I spent 5 hours backing up my entire C drive, making notes of all my settings, start menu, installed programs, quick access lists and more. Then I just did it. Formatted my C drive and reinstalled.

It took about 20 minutes, then another hour to get the basics working, drivers, important programs and what not. I slowly brought everything back and now 12 hours later of doing bits here and there, my PC is back as it was as far as I can tell.

With one exception.

Games now run SO much better. I'll give you all the examples I can:

1. Elite. I wasn't able to get more than 1.25x HMD Image Quality without going under 45fps on planets. Now I can pull 1.5x and never see a drop of stutter. That's a HUGE difference.
2. Space Engine (I'm on the beta). I was running 1.4x and getting under 30fps on planets. Now I can pull 1.75 and get 45fps on the same planets. That's a HUGE HUGE difference.
3. Ark: Survival Evolved was a glitchy stuttery mess. Never 100% smooth. Always microfreezing (not talking about lag of course). Now it's butter smooth, feels like a game rather than a beta.
4. Ghost Recon: Wildlands had lots of freezing and the frame rate wasn't perfect. I could see the frames. Now I can't, feels like it's 100% smooth at all times.
5. Zelda: GoTW, on the CEMU emulator. I was getting 15-30 fps, mostly around 19 or 20. I now get a solid 30, and that's capped. I probably get way more.

I could go on, and I'm still testing games but oh man, it's a revolution. I didn't know how amazing a rig I had by far, and I am loving every second of it. My games are exactly where I want them to be in terms of visual quality and smoothness. I'm so glad I had it in me all along!

Guys, don't put it off if you are in my situation. If it's been too long just take the plunge. Every bit of software, every driver, every non-existant program, every backup, everything I feared was ok in the end. I am back to where I was and it took all in all under a day. And I've benefited hugely from it.
 
My PC is a VR only machine and by that, i mean no browser, no mail, no nothing, just the necessary VR apps, 5 games and GeForce Experience. So far my VR experience has been a blast with very decent and constant frame rates. Having a clean installation seems to have a real benefit then. Thank you for your detailed report CMDR and enjoy the extra fps :) o7
 
Yeah. I have been contemplating doing a full re-install.

It is actually possible the last time I did it was when I replaced the motherboard.
And to windows 8 at the time.

The whole lot of updating software.
New CPU. New RAM. New gpu..
Sure I have been using the ddu driver cleaner but there is always something left behind.

Well it does seem all windows apps freeze on their start screen.
Even the calculator and the windows store among these.
Granted that's not a major problem for my daily use.

Yeah time for a refresh I guess.
 
Yeah. I have been contemplating doing a full re-install.

It is actually possible the last time I did it was when I replaced the motherboard.
And to windows 8 at the time.

The whole lot of updating software.
New CPU. New RAM. New gpu..
Sure I have been using the ddu driver cleaner but there is always something left behind.

Well it does seem all windows apps freeze on their start screen.
Even the calculator and the windows store among these.
Granted that's not a major problem for my daily use.

Yeah time for a refresh I guess.

My way of thinking for so long. It took a final straw to force me to do it, but if I had known what a difference it would make I would have done it a long time ago. I've also made a good collection of installers and stuff this time around so I can repeat with even less hassle.

DO IT!
 
I obliterated my disk a couple of months back. Was getting compositor frame drops and couldn't get to the bottom of it. Nuked the thing from orbit and started from scratch. It sorted the problem out.
 
It's amazing the amount of garbage that builds up over the years. I recently upgraded MB, Processor, RAM and GPU. Windows 10 turned on fine when I plugged the SSD into the new hardware. It did notice the differences and auto updated as it's linked to your account now, but I'm considering a full reinstall. I've noticed a few driver audio issues that I never had before....
 
I too can confirm this phenomenon.

In fact, at one point, I had a Windows install on a spare SSD dedicated to just playing VR games, and nothing else. It worked very, very well, and I encourage anyone to try - even a spare 60Gb partition on your existing drive is worth trying out.
 
I installed Elite on a brand new PC at the point of game release. All other programs run from the separate D: drive. I rarely go on the internet with said machine. And so far, all is well...... so that's probably jinked it now !

But it is absolutely true that as the years tick by, an operating system slowly but surely becomes wounded. Turning ever increasingly neurotic.

Flimley
 
All I can say is pay close attention to all the applications you intend to reinstall that you had on your system before the reinstall. Check performance one by one as you might well find that its a certain application that causes a memory hog or such.

I do see that you reinstalled everything but you just never know :) It could be some spyware that made it onto your pc somewhere down the line.
 
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One thing that really increased my performance and also freed up a massive amount of space on my SSD that was running windows was DriverStore.Explorer RAPR

you will be surprised how many old drivers that manage to get onto your system over time.
 
hehehe yeah just wait till all those windows updates start flowing in

es sir you got it wait until you are headed towards planet and windows 10 decides to remind you of a restart and you have no control over your ship. Rip mask off face and hit remind me later windows you
 
I never upgrade from OS to OS unless its my MacBook Pro Retina. For PC, its always a fresh clean install between versions. And every 6 months or so I'll do a reinstall just for fun. No wonder you were having so many issues. I just can't imagine not doing a clean install at least once a year, especially that a NAS/external drives are pretty affordable so backing up isn't that hard.

I could understand if you had a slow net connection and didn't want to redownload everything, but if not then 5 years between installs is rather ludicrous.
 
Great news Dr. Kaii!

Any chance you could post your current E:D settings (via the excellent ED Profiler) and any reprojection options you've set (or not set)?

I have an i7-7700K and 1080Ti and would like to see how mine handles things. Though it is a Vive rather than an Oculus so might not perform as well.
 
I guess it could do wonders if you are not aware of how healthy your computer is.

But if you are aware of exactly what services are running, how many processes in the task manager and what they are, and so on then a reinstall would not do anything.

I have a computer built in 2014. Windows 8.1. And recently installed a 1080 TI MSI.

I know ecaxtly what processes are running, exactly what the performance is and the temps accosiated with it.

I get 160 fps avarage in heaven with the ultra default setup which is a good measurement since that is what a 1080 TI with a 4.5 GHZ cpu should perform.

Then doing a reinstall will not magically get better performance.

SSD performance can be checked regularly also.
 
Wait a few days Dr Kai it will all bog down again lots of fun at first till you realize it was short lived.

bah you are wrong! It will last!

Great news Dr. Kaii!

Any chance you could post your current E:D settings (via the excellent ED Profiler) and any reprojection options you've set (or not set)?

I have an i7-7700K and 1080Ti and would like to see how mine handles things. Though it is a Vive rather than an Oculus so might not perform as well.



Here you go: http://imgur.com/hiXcYrj


Not sure what you mean by reprojection?
 
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