General / Off-Topic Religion or science poll, just out of curiosity.

Are you ED players scientific, or religious ?

  • Science;-i'm of science

    Votes: 75 74.3%
  • Religion-i'm of faith

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Both:- they are compatable

    Votes: 23 22.8%

  • Total voters
    101
  • Poll closed .
Just a poll of complete curiosity on my part, no discussion required but i'd be interested to see the results of this one. I made sure it wasn't public and avoided naming different faiths to avoid controversy. (as i'm entirely neutral (not quite)).
 
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Now this is intriguing stuff allready, just as i had hoped for (trying so hard not to make my own opinion known) but seriously, this is brilliant, if a poll like this can result in nothing but genuine curiosity and observation, then it will be a first for me on such a topic, but then ED has a friendlier and more mature group than the types of groups i used to engage in this stuff with. Great, love it.
 
Now this is intriguing stuff allready, just as i had hoped for (trying so hard not to make my own opinion known) but seriously, this is brilliant, if a poll like this can result in nothing but genuine curiosity and observation, then it will be a first for me on such a topic, but then ED has a friendlier and more mature group than the types of groups i used to engage in this stuff with. Great, love it.

I'd hate to see the places you used to hang out in!
 
I'd hate to see the places you used to hang out in!
Well......i used to frequent a facebook page called "United with Israel"...i think i both offended and defended all sides lol. Oh and the other group would be the Iplaycod forums (i visit neither anymore) and no i was never banned, the moderators loved me.
 
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The divine hand has created the universe ? Science can help to understand the divine hand ?
Or perhaps science can debunk the contents of the religious texts that "guide" most of the worlds population, and people can begin to look at the universe in awe, rather than a small god on our small planet in our tiny corner of the galaxy. One of my favourite quotes is from professor Lawrence Krauss when he said "you are all stardust, forget Jesus, the stars died for you". A great quote, in my opinion the universe and our search for answers, many of which we may never find, is far greater and more awe inspiring than any human faith, i for one am greatful that i was lucky enough to exist, and to have a chance to take in this world and know it's scientific origins, and yes, to explore evidence based theory as opposed to ancient texts set in stone. I know we will always have religion in this world, but i hope we never go back to the days where i would be forbidden to even talk about this topic in a meaningfull way, i think we can all agree there, after all Elite dangerous is a work of blasphemy that defies all three major holy books by suggesting that the Earth is over 6000 years old.
 
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Religion is the greatest reason humans kill each other.

Science; just provides the means to do it more efficiently.
That's not how i see it, violence trancsends religion and science and science and religion transcends violence, so it's really a seperate issue. You get scientists who may invent weapons to kill, you get religious people who invent/inherit reasons to kill. But the nature of science is progress (learning the laws of physics, and that the Earth is not flat or 6000 years old, and science enables progress via cures, vaccines and methods of protecting people) whereas the nature of religion is regressive (in that almost everything about religion ignores progress and promotes slavery and bondage and violence). So no, science does not really enable religion to kill people. People were killing in much higher numbers (per contextual population) before science, and human life is valued much higher in secular science based countries like the UK, Israel, Japan France and Germany, than in the regressive Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and even the red US states. Science may provide certain tools to religion, but it certainnly does not help religion to kill (as it would kill anyway).
 
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Minonian

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I'm right in the middle, drives me nuts.
So you are an agnostic just like me. You see no proof, to god existence and you neither see proof about his non existence. Right? :)

The only question is, you are an atheist who just don't want to be a part of this millenniums old debate, or the opposite, whom have his own belief but saying there is no point to argue about it, because it cannot be decided, by arguments. Or you as a hard core agnostic saying both is possible, but i'm not sure.

For my part I'm somewhat spiritual by nature but i see no point to debate about it. I have a tiny bit of Buddhist approach about this. Because about god, and anything "magical"? See before.

Religion is the greatest reason humans kill each other.

Science; just provides the means to do it more efficiently.

Faith is dreaming to have answers about the big questions of life, and science to have it.
Religion on my thinking is the misstep after you start asking. And science is to have sometimes debatable answers.
So i say they are compatible. Because you can't live without dreams without striving for better.

Faith is all about questions and science are all about answers.
Faith sometimes have false answers and knowledge sometimes have wrong questions.
One is asking and thinks have the answer and the other is answering and thinks he have the right question.
 
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Not really a sensible question. I'm an atheist, with a BSc, but that doesn't make me 'of science'. Or even necessarily 'for science' (or my degree necessarily scientific, but that is another topic...) In as much as science provides answers, it rarely explains why we are asking questions in the first place. Or why we should care about the answers anyway.
 
I would say I'm agnostic but, the way I see it is, science is what we know and what we can prove and this is ever expanding (we understand / discover more everyday).

Religion is a tag we use for what we don't know. A lot of religion is rooted in worship of the sun, we didn't know what it was but we knew it kept us alive and safe. As we understand more science we rely on less religion and the balance will tip to there being more believers in science and less believers in gods. This is something I feel we are already seeing.

For example we started with the question "how did life start?" The bible gave us a story of a very busy guy and a week. Science got us to the big bang so religion has now started to change its tune (the 7 days is actually millions of years approach). So what we see is that because we now understand what happened, the void religion fills is "what caused the big bang?".

I disagree that religion causes wars, humans cause wars and use religion as a reason. If you were able to do a true root cause analysis of how every conflict starts (which I'm not sure you could) there would be a number of reasons behind the mask of religion.

Just my thoughts interesting debate though.

I should probably point out that the only religion I have any understanding of (and minimal understanding at that) is Christianity, therefore if I've said something completely wrong it is entirely out of ignorance and I mean no offence. In fact if someone corrects me it would be very interesting to learn more from a different perspective.
 
As stars do not live, how can they die?

If a star is large enough they can die in an explosion called a supernova which gives us many of the heavier elements we have with us today.

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Actually all stars will eventually die including black holes which will eventually evaporate.
 
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Or perhaps science can debunk the contents of the religious texts that "guide" most of the worlds population, and people can begin to look at the universe in awe, rather than a small god on our small planet in our tiny corner of the galaxy. One of my favourite quotes is from professor Lawrence Krauss when he said "you are all stardust, forget Jesus, the stars died for you". A great quote, in my opinion the universe and our search for answers, many of which we may never find, is far greater and more awe inspiring than any human faith, i for one am greatful that i was lucky enough to exist, and to have a chance to take in this world and know it's scientific origins, and yes, to explore evidence based theory as opposed to ancient texts set in stone. I know we will always have religion in this world, but i hope we never go back to the days where i would be forbidden to even talk about this topic in a meaningfull way, i think we can all agree there, after all Elite dangerous is a work of blasphemy that defies all three major holy books by suggesting that the Earth is over 6000 years old.

If the science could help us to understand if there is an "after" for us

:)
 
So what we see is that because we now understand what happened, the void religion fills is "what caused the big bang?".

The universe itself might have caused the big bang for all we know. We don't know if there was one big bang or perhaps a never ending cycle of big bangs in an infinite universe. The universe may be eternal and the visible universe is believed to be only a small part of a much larger possibly infinite universe.
 
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