Removing exploits from Power play and also Removing Alioth Permit which destroys BGS

Marcus Bronco

Marcus Bronco
Ethics.
Does Frontier Developers value ethics? I believe so.
Why Power play is still infested by all sort of cynical stuff, demotivating totally the interest in playing and participating?

Why the Alioth Permit is still there? You know what is BGS right? Imagine that you had your faction near a Permit and THE ENTIRE GALAXY came there or local or also opponents could use this to undermine your faction over there using such effects forcing you to a never ending effort to maintain your Faction against loads of players randoms and what not, people even hiding in SOLO!

Please you are pushing away people from the game, it's impossible to find players as so many have left so it's hard to team up and counter these effects.,

How you counter them? you hack by using exploits, the dog eats its tail or the snake does and it is a LOSS LOSS the outcome for ALL.

Please remove the Permit in Alioth so people stop grinding for Alioth Independents more like "AI" yes the end of Humanity, and please work hard to counter and even revert the effects of exploit abuse (there are several shown online too and "ticketed" to you in the support section.)

But seriously. It's terrible to play near such Permit zone, you can't have BGS and you force to abandon a faction in order to have fun, one has built affection to.
People also have left because it's basically impossible to counter this, and it's EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL to player time which is literally chewed by randoms without any purpose but their individual greed for engineering tools and other proxies who have fun hiding behind such force ...

The permit has pushed the take over of several several systems, think of it.
A blinded activity without any strategy actually damaging who strategy instead is actually practicing and engaged in.

This has no sense at all!
 

Marcus Bronco

Marcus Bronco
aRJay said:
Why just the Alioth permit?

Aren’t all the other permit locked systems an issue if you don’t have access?
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If other areas have a similar issue for BGS then they should ask the same, The permit is a cool feature in general, but it get really hard to manage this in terms of BGS balance due to the effect of people who come there completely "aimlessly" in terms of community they just do it for their own objectives and this affects and help the faction that delivers the permit.

The permit instead should be there (another idea) but should not be connected to a faction but to a general galaxy ENTITY that in the region delivers such permits. So that you don't have to give points to a faction that is not ok receives all this influence for free destroying the other people activity ...

Anyway there is always a way: elimination from the galaxy, if FDev want that, will proceed with that.
 

Marcus Bronco

Marcus Bronco
Alliance leaders told me that general attempts by Fdev did not work ... anyway I am not interested in protecting in this case PRB interests anymore after what they have done to me, so yeah I hope Alioth Independents power just does raise. I am sorry but there is a limit to arrogance.

I know that the permit should have been also handled to all the factions near alioth or that own an Engineer or something like that to Even the things...
But this did not work either as an update or was not ever implemented really.
 

Marcus Bronco

Marcus Bronco
SlickPBW said:
Endeavor to persevere.
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I agree, strategize etc, but without team mates (and one looks for similar mindset and apparoach... I have immersive take, nothing but open, and cooperative and including also odyssey.. It's not that easy to find these mature .. and players that are polite.
 

Marcus Bronco

Marcus Bronco
Regarding Permit, np...
but
Regarding exploits and hacking and things very beyond any respect abusing code etc... hell no. Strange you haven't spent a word on that.
 

angusmadmac1

angusmadmac1
Well expand out of that area and retreat ??
The permit has been there far longer and will carry on being there after your faction has dried up and disappeared .
Hey I bought a house and it's next to a motorway and directly underneath a flight path.. I think I'm going to get them to move both ??
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Funny how other factions sort of manage the normal background BGS being done by non BGS knowledgeable people. Yes you may have to factor in more work than a normal system but hey you wanted to be there
Another player faction tried to surpress another permit Fdev didn't like that.
And that permit is still around .
 

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
FDEV never intended, nor adopted the BGS as official gameplay. It was always only meant as a background mechanic to have an ever changing galaxy. Just look at powerplay 2.0 and how that is currently causing havoc on the BGS efforts of nearly every squadron in the game. So I doubt anything will change about that Alioth permit. And nothing will change about PP 2.0 either any time soon, since it's a success. Player numbers on at least Steam have nearly doubled since the release, and there's no significant dropoff after almost 3 weeks.
 
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Rebel Yell

Rebel Yell
Cmdr. Numa said:
FDEV never intended, nor adopted the BGS as official gameplay. It was always only meant as a background mechanic to have an ever changing galaxy. Just look at powerplay 2.0 and how that is currently causing havoc on the BGS efforts of nearly every suqadron in the game. So I doubt anything will chance about that Alioth permit. And nothing will change about PP 2.0 either any time soon, since it's a success. Player numbers on at least Steam have nearly doubled since the release, and there's no significant dropoff after almost 3 weeks.
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They have to fix bugs/exploits, the C&P is broken and results in illogical situations, moreover some merit numbers need to be reworked for a better balance, as players numbers can drop as fast as they've risen.
 

Marcus Bronco

Marcus Bronco
metatheurgist said:
Almost never see anyone in the Australia PG. I could do all sorts of 'exploits' in Open.
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LOOOOOL!!!

Yeah yeah yeah, the world is made of perspectives, and nobody is respecting rules in a similar way so to have a common game played with same ability, so knowledge is much less of a factor, there can be exploits, there can be people t hat move with great coordination, people that just don't care, people that make irl threats (madness), people that do try to achieve effects by having big numbers... so in the end everyone plays and reinvent this game daily with their own style and approach ... I say some are completely disheartened and out of place but ok.

Relatively to Alioth or other permit, no problems. We got it.
Regarding exploits which fortunately Rebel yell mentions, it's not that cynical as Numa says, naah, once people realize it, will reduce. It's just like with everything else.
Elections quest don't even work anymore and the changes in dynamics it's cool and makes sense.

If someone owns most of the assets in a system there is no damn reason other can grow in influence but with difficulty and so it is now and should stay so.
It means more easy time to retreat more fight or diplomatic effort for sure, less status quo, abhorrent gatekeeping ... More need to cooperate deal with others or whatever.

Anyway, I don't think that the good effect lasts if they don't fix the fact you can get to over 100 merits within a few seconds with exploits... basically burning in 2 weeks the raise to max rank in your power, something that should have taken like in America's Army the game from 2001\2002 years to get...(100 was the max level and the incremental need to grow was huge)

For me only the fact you get up to max level in 1-2 week is a huge failure, it ruins the game for those players who still have taste and have a some ethics, it's not good just becasue one has ethics, it's because it's good to have a rules that are shared and that make thus a game exist. No shared rules, no game.

I could (and would never) too use the exploit shown in videos or passed by others, then what? To destroy an update that people worked to create and inject in the game (ascendancy)...Do people think before doing stuff, they feel powerful? All right. Enjoy pppppowerrrfullll dopamine non sense, damaging thousands of other players
 
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