Repair community relations

Voidflames

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Whether the management of Odyssey agree or not, it's clear to the community that elite dangerous is an early access product.
My suggestions to repair relations
  • Offer everyone who purchased Odyssey (regardless of playtime) an option: refund or 85,000 arx (highest store option)
  • Change the storefront page to show it's early access and include 85k arx until the game is suitable state (console release)
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[VR] Zakk

[VR] Zakk
Voidflames said:
Whether the management of Odyssey agree or not, it's clear to the community that elite dangerous is an early access product.
My suggestions to repair relations
  • Offer everyone who purchased Odyssey (regardless of playtime) an option: refund or 85,000 arx (highest store option)
  • Change the storefront page to show it's early access and include 85k arx until the game is suitable state (console release)
Thanks for Reading
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I'm afraid you forgot one bullet point there:
  • Explain to your shareholders why your financial report lists a finished game that you shipped within your fiscal year, when a few days later you started advertising the same game as an early access product.
I don't know Frontier's shareholder structure, but I have a certain feeling it would take more than 85 000 arx to make up for that.
 

GroG79

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Dont confuse stakeholders and shareholders

Shareholders are just that... Some stakeholders (at least 1) are actually shareholders and influence things. The company is run by the board and not by 'shareholders'. If you have enough shares (Invesco Advisors or Swedbank Robur Fonder with around 3 million shares each perhaps) you can apply for a seat in the board.
 

Justinian Octavius

Justinian Octavius
Old Duck said:
I need a new car IRL, as long as we're looking for handouts.
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I suspect if you ordered a Ferrari but were delivered a Lada with a broken engine you'd want a refund. If this was any other games studio it would probably have a lawsuit filed against it by now (ask CDPR).

CMDR Justinian Octavius
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
Justinian Octavius said:
I suspect if you ordered a Ferrari but were delivered a Lada with a broken engine you'd want a refund. If this was any other games studio it would probably have a lawsuit filed against it by now (ask CDPR).

CMDR Justinian Octavius
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But the OP wants an option to keep the car and get $85,000 in cash! Lots of people have and continue to get refunds, so that's not the issue. It's this "I burned my tongue on hot coffee at McDs, so now they owe me $10 million dollars for pain and suffering" mentality that I take issue with.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Old Duck said:
. It's this "I burned my tongue on hot coffee at McDs, so now they owe me $10 million dollars for pain and suffering" mentality that I take issue with.
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Just as a FYI: that case was more "McDonalds consistently ignored our earlier smaller fines for overtly violating safety regulations, so we now try a larger one to see if that gets through their thick corporate skulls."

Which it did. While McD spend a lot of money on propaganda convincing people their poor little global corp was the victim of some vicious evil granny, behind the scenes they finally decided to adhere to the existing laws.

Moral of the story: don't listen to what corps tell you, verify the actual story yourself. Might be relevant with FD too. :)
 

Pat Healy

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[VR] Zakk said:
I'm afraid you forgot one bullet point there:
  • Explain to your shareholders why your financial report lists a finished game that you shipped within your fiscal year, when a few days later you started advertising the same game as an early access product.
I don't know Frontier's shareholder structure, but I have a certain feeling it would take more than 85 000 arx to make up for that.
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Frontier is not advertising the game as early access. The early-access tag on Steam is user-defined. As for shareholders, company's fundamentals are pretty good. The recent price pullback in the stock might have been viewed as a good time to buy. There was a decent surge of buying late last week.
 
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