Request to FDev to increase pad height limits by one meter.

[Gryphorim]

Request to FDev to increase pad height limits by one metre.

FDevs, please consider increasing the maximum height in at least small and medium landing pads by just one metre, as it would have the following effects:

The Type 6 and Keelback would fit in the small bay. This might also hold true for the Dolphin, if added.
The Type 7 would fit on the medium bay. The Orca looks as though it should just fit on the medium as well. It has greater clearance than the ICutter has on the large bay.

Also, the only thing stopping the IClipper fitting on the medium is the engine nacelles. Could the Clipper be remodelled to have the nacelles retract closer to the body, to fit on a medium pad, or could a variant that does so be added?

This request spurred on by these excellent relative scale charts by CMDR Arithon and CMDR Janichsan:

 

[CMDR Zhon Daeli]

Don't know what the impact would be on increasing pad sizes (it might have a much larger impact on the station design than you might think); but, something you mentioned stood out: variants!
I want big ship variants!

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That's pretty much the level of my contribution.

 

[MadDogMurdock]

Agree on the T6, T7, and Keelback (combat ship!?), but the Orca is much longer than any medium ship and the Clipper is just typical decadent Imperial design

 

[Kazacy]

And who will pay for the amount of metal/materials at galactic level used in the process of refitting the stations?

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

And who will pay for the amount of metal/materials at galactic level used in the process of refitting the stations?

FD should set up some CG for just this and then they can gauge who really wants to change things in game

 

[Vasious]

It would be nice of the Type 7 Got into Mediums, a bonus for the Type 6 and Keelback into smalls.

It would be the Lakon point of difference, the largest cargo ships for the Small and medium Pads, at the best prices, (with the Type 9 as the Best Value Large Pad Hauler) fitting in with the box shape, utilitarian feel of the company, with the Diamondbacks and Asps being their Prestige range in small and Medium

I think it would need to be a complete redesign of the Clipper to be narrower, those Nacelles have nowhere to retract to as they aren't on struts there in hull basically extending out to them

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[Gryphorim]

Agree on the T6, T7, and Keelback (combat ship!?), but the Orca is much longer than any medium ship and the Clipper is just typical decadent Imperial design

Orca still "fits" on the medium, though. It's shorter than the pad, with more clearance on sides and at bow/stern than the Cutter has on the large pad, and lower in total height than the Fed DS, AS and GS, so it fits on the pad.

Imperial Clipper is decadent, yes, but there's no reason it couldn't see a refit or variant with "more decadent" folding hardtop engine nacelles.
I suggest retracting nacelles, as it would be a callback to earlier elite games, and is already a feature of the Imp Fighter.

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I think it would need to be a complete redesign of the Clipper to be narrower, those Nacelles have nowhere to retract to as they aren't on struts there in hull basically extending out to them

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http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...lipper3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150207165803

Imagine a redesign that allows the outer "webbing" structure to hinge forward, unbracing the underlying structure, which would include a hidden telescopic element, shortening wingspan by about the 1.5x width of nacelles.
Alternatively, a variant chassis with a completely new wing structure to allow such telescoping.

 

[Snarfbuckle]

Retractable nacelles should be a feature on all imperial ships, just as it was in the old Imperial Courier and Imperial Trader.

 

[Gryphorim]

Retractable nacelles should be a feature on all imperial ships, just as it was in the old Imperial Courier and Imperial Trader.

Well, maybe not on all, but on ICourier and IClipper. I always felt the Courier has to narrow a wingspan, in flight. Small extension of the nacelles would look cool. Would space weapons widely tho.
Clipper looks like it has storage or powerplant or something in wingroot, but could handle some creative tinkering. Having the nacelles and a small length of the outer wing hinge downward 90 degrees and slide inboard a small amount should fit it on a medium pad.

 

[Bomba Luigi]

not sure what the point would be, that some ships can't land on outposts is not that big of a deal. And there certainly would be no point to make medium pad ships able to land on small pads, every place has medium pads.

And seriously, the clipper is a really large ship a large pad is where he belongs to.

 

[StiTch]

I imagine clippers and the like are large pad not by coincidence of pad size but design.

Let the clipper land on outposts, suddenly a few years jump range off being OP for multirole. As applies to several ships.

 

[Privata]

Don't know what the impact would be on increasing pad sizes (it might have a much larger impact on the station design than you might think); but, something you mentioned stood out: variants!
I want ship variants!

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/IJxKPf2.jpg

That's pretty much the level of my contribution.

We might be getting them soon.
Bodykits are going to be in the game !

 

[Cosmo Bozo]

Don't know what the impact would be on increasing pad sizes (it might have a much larger impact on the station design than you might think); but, something you mentioned stood out: variants!
I want ship variants!

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/IJxKPf2.jpg

That's pretty much the level of my contribution.

We have variants, 2 eagles, 2 cobras, 2 vipers, 2 diamondbacks.....

No big ships though.......

 

[Gryphorim]

We have variants, 2 eagles, 2 cobras, 2 vipers, 2 diamondbacks.....

No big ships though.......

I'm actually disappointed in the apparent similarity in the Viper4, Asp S, and Cobra4. And 3 FDS variants, all being behind a rank wall is a bit much. At least the FDS should be civvie. But that's a different topic.

 

[Jamie Wolf]

I imagine clippers and the like are large pad not by coincidence of pad size but design.

Let the clipper land on outposts, suddenly a few years jump range off being OP for multirole. As applies to several ships.

I second that.
Think it was not that FD designed the stations and landing pads and then went, oh how could that happen, that the Type 6 or Clipper can not fit the medium pads.
I am quite sure that was a design decision.

Otherwise they could just have made 1 standard sized pad that fits all ships.

 

[CMDR Zhon Daeli]

We have variants, 2 eagles, 2 cobras, 2 vipers, 2 diamondbacks.....

No big ships though.......

I was referring the big girls. ^^
Corrected post to avoid confusion.

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We might be getting them soon.
Bodykits are going to be in the game !

Definitely looking forward to that. I love customisation, especially aesthetics.

 

[Gryphorim]

I second that.
Think it was not that FD designed the stations and landing pads and then went, oh how could that happen, that the Type 6 or Clipper can not fit the medium pads.
I am quite sure that was a design decision.

Otherwise they could just have made 1 standard sized pad that fits all ships.

I'm not suggesting that all ships be allowed at outposts, and I would understand if FD came on here and said that it was a deliberate restriction to stop T6s from using small and T7s/Orcas from using medium. That'd be the end of it.
As for the Clipper, I don't see how 15LY would be OP jump range. It's only a little above the FDS, and way below a T7

 

[Gryphorim]

We might be getting them soon.
Bodykits are going to be in the game !

Source? Colour me intrigued.

If this is going to get crewed turrets (as in a rotating assembly with more than one hardpoint built in) closer to being a thing, count me in.

 

[StiTch]

I'm not suggesting that all ships be allowed at outposts, and I would understand if FD came on here and said that it was a deliberate restriction to stop T6s from using small and T7s/Orcas from using medium. That'd be the end of it.
As for the Clipper, I don't see how 15LY would be OP jump range. It's only a little above the FDS, and way below a T7

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I imagine clippers and the like are large pad not by coincidence of pad size but design.

Let the clipper land on outposts, suddenly a few years jump range off being OP for multirole. As applies to several ships.

Not saying it has OP jump, though as it is a multirole clipper can happily have a jump range in the twenties. I am saying that if it DID have a higher jump and was medium landing pad usable, that'd be game over for many other multirole ships

 

[CMDR Zhon Daeli]

Source? Colour me intrigued.

If this is going to get crewed turrets (as in a rotating assembly with more than one hardpoint built in) closer to being a thing, count me in.

You can see it in the Outfitter Livery section. There's a tab for bodykits.
Also, watch the intro movie for Engineers and look very closely at the Eagle ... body is slightly modified.