Returning to the game. I'm on a Macbook pro now, but bought horizons when I was gaming on a PC. No dl in my list for it.

.... wouldn't touch windows 8, much less 10 with a pole and ... ...

So, I guess I've been assimilated but what's wrong with 10? I've been using it since it came out and once I'd relearned where everything is, have become quite happy with it. It seems stable and reasonably fast to boot - taking just one third of a coffee.
 
So, I guess I've been assimilated but what's wrong with 10? I've been using it since it came out and once I'd relearned where everything is, have become quite happy with it. It seems stable and reasonably fast to boot - taking just one third of a coffee.

Principle for not having an opt out to be a product. A while back microsoft disclosed whats in the mandatory telemetry, go have a look. Settings you enable or disable that seem to control online communication don't work as expected. Random prompts to restart.

... ultimate its probably just displeasure at how it didn't use to be that way.
 
There's moltenvk they could have used? Yeah more than 2 graphics api's would be a nightmare i'm sure. Directx gets 2 platforms (??) so it would be great if the other one got the other two (sorry linux.. unless linux has a strong vulkan infrastructure already, no idea).

Linux supports OpenGL hence how players have got the game running on that platform (albeit unofficially and unsupported). In fact OpenGL is pretty much fully supported by all platforms, except MacOS.

FD aren't going to recode their entire Cobra Engine into another language / API when what they have, just works. Especially since they have spent decades developing it (the original version was in development from 1988). It wouldn't make sense from a practical or business point of view.
 
So, I guess I've been assimilated but what's wrong with 10? I've been using it since it came out and once I'd relearned where everything is, have become quite happy with it. It seems stable and reasonably fast to boot - taking just one third of a coffee.
Yep me too! W10/8.1 as a whole haven't given me to many problems and i can't say the same for w7 through w98! As for telemetry stuff block it with a firewall or disconnect from the internet if you think your that important!
 
yeah they moved away from MAC due to the limitation of them. all the new lighting wasn't able to be done, hence the PC only
 
So, even though I have a "Mac download" available at the Frontier store, it will not run on any current or older Mac?

It's probably going to be the demo mode if anything at all. The game (as I said previously) will still work on your Mac (if it did before) on bootcamped windows, or Linux if you fancy doing a fair bit of fettling. ED is no longer supported on Mac and hasn't been for some time now.
 
So, I guess I've been assimilated but what's wrong with 10? I've been using it since it came out and once I'd relearned where everything is, have become quite happy with it. It seems stable and reasonably fast to boot - taking just one third of a coffee.
There are a number of things I'm not fond of with Windows 10 and I could go into listing them here, but it's getting a bit off topic in this thread anyway. Suffice it to say that Windows 7 works the way I want it to more than Windows 10 or even 8, for that matter. I (admittedly rather subjectively) see Windows 7 as the last real Windows PC desktop OS. It just works for me rather well, with only having a few presently minor limitations due to Microsoft and other vendors phasing out support of it. So far as I can tell at this time, Linux will be my primary desktop OS platform going forward. I've already made the transition on my main laptop for some time now. I'm still a holdout on Windows 7 as the primary booted OS for my main desktop PC, due to having more complicated and proprietary systems (both hardware and software) running on it. For some of these same reasons, Windows 10 isn't as viable on it either.

If Windows 10 is working well enough or as you might prefer for you and others, more power to you. I have set it up, administer, and use it for my family on some of their newer laptops, though also use Manjaro as an alternative boot option on a couple of them.

Cheers.
 
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