Rich Folks Hoax

[kapitankev]

So, I'm really thinking of biting the bullet and starting the trade grind....wings is out and hopefully I can persuade people to give me escort if needed.

Before I start, just wanted to ask a question of the wealthy pilots out there.

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right? Or is that no longer the case now the repair bills have been lowered?

I don't mind grinding to get a nice ship as long as grinding doesn't then become an unavoidable part of the game due to running costs.

 

[ciger]

So, I'm really thinking of biting the bullet and starting the trade grind....wings is out and hopefully I can persuade people to give me escort if needed.

Before I start, just wanted to ask a question of the wealthy pilots out there.

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right? Or is that no longer the case now the repair bills have been lowered?

I don't mind grinding to get a nice ship as long as grinding doesn't then become an unavoidable part of the game due to running costs.

trade over the working days, have fun over the weekends

 

[Alexios Komnenos]

Just grind out a capital once you have everything you need, say x10 your insurance cost. After that, you can pretty much do whatever you like, and if you drop below x5 your insurance, just grind again. (You'll never do that, as you can get around 600k per hour bounty hunting, so unless you die a lot, you should be fine for a very, very long time).

 

[kapitankev]

ok, fair enough. 600k per hour bounty hunting? Do more wanted ships spawn if you're in a larger ship?

Are you goign to the strong signal sources?

It'd be nice if there was an option to join the navy or something to get a nice ship at the cost of having to fly patrol missions. Bounty Hunting but with a paycheck.

It'd be even nicer to have the option of going AWOL with the ship!

 

[Riprock]

As long as you don't do the same 2 stations over and over again its not a grind...I was once a combat only player,just hung around nav's and RES's, but made the switch to trading and combat...Now ive got a Conda and FDL and enjoy both trades immensely ...There seems to be a myth around these forums that if you trade, you don't participate in combat...That's absolute horse manure, like I said just don't do the same 2 stations over and over and you'll be fine...

 

[kapitankev]

ok, in that case.

Asp or T6?

 

[xslam]

Lose ship in pvp - > Go grind 10kk (Like in EVE online)

Fortunately i didn't lose any expensive ship (yet)

 

[JinjaBeardy]

Yep agree with you Riprock, I have a Cobra with 40t cargo and A rated FSD etc, that's enough to do 800k-1m hr on the rares trading but still good enough for combat to mix it up in a fight no problem, and so that's what I do. I have died rarely and when I do usually it's my own fault, like forgetting to watch out for unavoidable asteroids

 

[Jorlin]

So, I'm really thinking of biting the bullet and starting the trade grind....wings is out and hopefully I can persuade people to give me escort if needed.

Before I start, just wanted to ask a question of the wealthy pilots out there.

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right? Or is that no longer the case now the repair bills have been lowered?

I don't mind grinding to get a nice ship as long as grinding doesn't then become an unavoidable part of the game due to running costs.

What i do most of the days (and always did since beta):
- fire up ED
- start my trading round (non rares)
- fly it until i don't want anymore (can happen at the first round or three hours)
- hop in my other ship and do something else (missions, hunting, shortrange exploring, sightseeing...)
sometimes not even start with trading if i logged out "out there" while exploring...

this way i don't feel as if im "grinding" yet it helped me to earn an Anaconda (for trading), an Asp (for exploring) and a python (for everything else).

 

[Retorrent]

I tend to do a trade run with rares, before you buy the next ship I would make sure that you have enough to upgrade everything and still have Cr left over for the cost of rebuy after insurance. Don't make the mistake of just getting enough to buy the ship without upgrades because a lot of the stock parts often need to be replace to make the ship optimized.

For example if you are going to buy a T6 you want to be able to have enough to upgrade the FSD and cargo cap. The stock FSD on the T6 is pretty meh but once you buy the A class one that is when the ship really shines as a trader.

 

[ianw]

ok, in that case.

Asp or T6?

Depends whether you want to fight interdicting pirates or just avoid them I guess - and how much cash you have now.

 

[Whiterose]

Trade in an Asp. When you get bored you can always go Bounty Hunting.

 

[Spiridon]

So, I'm really thinking of biting the bullet and starting the trade grind....wings is out and hopefully I can persuade people to give me escort if needed.

Before I start, just wanted to ask a question of the wealthy pilots out there.

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right? Or is that no longer the case now the repair bills have been lowered?

I don't mind grinding to get a nice ship as long as grinding doesn't then become an unavoidable part of the game due to running costs.

The thing is - if you don't spend 10 hours straight doing A-B-A-B - it's not a grind. That is, it doesn't feel like grind. Finding new routes is challenging and fun. The only time I felt like grinding was in a crazy Perf Enhancer craze. Luckily it was soon over.

 

[Jorlin]

Trade in an Asp. When you get bored you can always go Bounty Hunting.

Or stay in the Cobra until you can afford the T6 on top.
Two dedicated ships usually do the jobs better than a compromise.

 

[EddyRockSteady]

So, I'm really thinking of biting the bullet and starting the trade grind....wings is out and hopefully I can persuade people to give me escort if needed.

Before I start, just wanted to ask a question of the wealthy pilots out there.

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right? Or is that no longer the case now the repair bills have been lowered?

I don't mind grinding to get a nice ship as long as grinding doesn't then become an unavoidable part of the game due to running costs.

There comes a stage where all costs are irrelevant: Your money far exceeds what you can spend it on so it's just pure fun from thereon in.

 

[kapitankev]

I trade rares now but I usually just do one trip per play session. I prefer not to buy my rares. As I do the loop filling up I do the odd bit of piracy, keep a few hatch breakers just incase. At the end of the rares loop i ditch the breakers and fill the hold with rares and start the long run.


So I'll make 500k on that trip but to get up to 20odd million is going to take a while, my cobra is pretty much a spec no so I guess that won't be soaking up profits anymore.

Think it'll be the asp for me.....if I can make 500k on one trip with 32tons then the asp looks quite tasty, repair costs are lower too so maybe more viable for combat now.

 

[PotatoOverdose]

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right?

To be perfectly honest, I've never had that be the case, now or in the past. Where I'm coming from:

Currently, I'm flying an anaconda 14,000 LY away from Sol exploring the deep parts of the galaxy. I have used it for trading, combat, and exploration and I've flown every ship in the game, all on the live server except the Vulture and FDL which I flew on the beta server.

Even doing exploration (the least profitable activity in the game) in an Anaconda (the most expensive ship to maintain) doing a reasonably damage intensive activity (heat damage and wear & tear add up after tens of thousands of lightyears), I've NEVER had an issue turning a profit, to say nothing of simply keeping up with maintenance fees.

I *suppose* if you're bounty hunting, and trash your ship repeatedly, costs might become an issue. Personally, I've done bounty hunting in an Asp, Python, and Anaconda extensively - and barring some early mistakes while learning and overconfident, I've never taken any significant losses from it.

As for pvp, I tend to stick to fits in the ~50 million credits range. Hasn't been too bad. Haven't done a trade run in ~5 weeks.

ok, in that case.

Asp or T6?

Asp. More cargo, longer jump range (which means more trade routes available and trade routes can be done in fewer jumps), larger fuel tank (can take longer routes without wasting time scooping or refueling at midpoint stations), fewer npc interdictions (due to better shields/weapons), fewer ships masslock you. All of these advantages are doubly useful for rares.

 

[Spike K]

My goal is to increase Reputation in a few key areas and keep it high. In order to do that, I participate in almost all of the game features.
Except mining.
It may seem like a 'trade grind' at times to some, but to me it's simply part of the game I love.
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[SHADEVARI]

So, I'm really thinking of biting the bullet and starting the trade grind....wings is out and hopefully I can persuade people to give me escort if needed.

Before I start, just wanted to ask a question of the wealthy pilots out there.

Once you've got your multimillion Cr ship, to maintain it, you need to continue the grind right? Or is that no longer the case now the repair bills have been lowered?

I don't mind grinding to get a nice ship as long as grinding doesn't then become an unavoidable part of the game due to running costs.

I have a 150Mcr Python, fitted as true multi-purpose with 128T of cargo space. While I do not earn much with it (compared to pure trading) when doing missions, faction work, bounty hunting, etc. I still do earn money (even with pre 1.2 repair costs). If I need money to buy something big, like the Vulture now, I do some trips with the Anaconda. ;-)