Rogue Black Hole

Rooster Podunk · Mar 23, 2019

Working my way home, tired, have data stuffed into every nook and cranny on the ship, my pockets, even inside my socks. As a creature of habit I check the NavMap every few jumps to make sure I'm not missing something. Well if I was buckyballing I sure would have. There, just to the left of my position an Fmass system. Re-plotting..."Frame Shift Drive Charging"...5...4...3...2...

Nice surprise. All by herself, undiscovered, and a great way to start my morning...

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Fly far, be safe, most of all have fun.

Apsley · Mar 23, 2019

Nice find! Coincidentally, the same has just happened to me, only it's pm, not am. I was ripped out of supercruise as I arrived at the BH as I was distracted reading your post! My 2nd undiscovered BH on this trip.

Aps.

Leif_Erikson · Mar 23, 2019

Black Holes are now so easy to find on the galaxy map. I use them as route end points on DW2 now as there's so many.

I always choose the ones with Neutron Stars and/or White Dwarfs in the system as I'm still looking for an ELW orbiting a Black Hole.....or even better a White Dwarf

Apsley · Mar 24, 2019

Leif_Erikson said:
Black Holes are now so easy to find on the galaxy map. I use them as route end points on DW2 now as there's so many.

I always choose the ones with Neutron Stars and/or White Dwarfs in the system as I'm still looking for an ELW orbiting a Black Hole.....or even better a White Dwarf

Is there a trick to finding them? I have the map filtered to show systems with a limited set of 'interesting' stars, and usually have a scan around looking for 'smudges'. This trip has been >200kLys and this is only the 2nd so I'm not finding many, but I could just be doing it wrong. I've also covered around 50kLys since 3.3 dropped and not found a single NSP, so I may also be doing that wrong too...

Aps.

Leif_Erikson · Mar 24, 2019

Apsley said:
Is there a trick to finding them? I have the map filtered to show systems with a limited set of 'interesting' stars, and usually have a scan around looking for 'smudges'. This trip has been >200kLys and this is only the 2nd so I'm not finding many, but I could just be doing it wrong. I've also covered around 50kLys since 3.3 dropped and not found a single NSP, so I may also be doing that wrong too...

Aps.

The trick is to look at realistic map view and go 1000lyrs up or down. Where you find loads of Neutrons and White Dwarfs, Black Holes will be there in quantities too.
Before the update BH's looked vague on realistic view but now they easily show up as black dots.

GunnerBill · Mar 25, 2019

Apsley said:
Nice find! Coincidentally, the same has just happened to me, only it's pm, not am. I was ripped out of supercruise as I arrived at the BH as I was distracted reading your post! My 2nd undiscovered BH on this trip.

Aps.

Ha in complete contradiction to Leif I'll give you my method:

In Glamap with only non sequence and one (or two) other class selected I'll adjust the scale until I can see stars at the largest scale possible.

I'll then drive the focus of the map forward a few hundred lightyears, go up, come back, go right, go forward...

Basically trying to make a search grid.

Whatever your method it's as much about getting your eye in as you search.

I always select one other star class so as to be able to see the map is still showing any stars and to provide a distance reference as I drive about the map.

Quite often when you find one BH there will be others close by.

I once found a "swam" of them with over a 100 in total across a 200 ly belt.

varonica · Mar 25, 2019

GunnerBill said:
Ha in complete contradiction to Leif I'll give you my method:

In Glamap with only non sequence and one (or two) other class selected I'll adjust the scale until I can see stars at the largest scale possible.

I select O and B class, then non-sequence down to the bottom, basically rare stuff (except for those annoying T-Tauri's) Select a target 500-1kly ahead in the direction I am traveling and set a route, then scroll slowly backwards along the route as above with the scale as large as practical checking left, right, up, down looking for interesting things and bookmarking as I go. Once I have all the interesting stuff along the route bookmarked I just follow the route from one bookmark to the next.

GunnerBill · Mar 25, 2019

varonica said:
I select O and B class, then non-sequence down to the bottom, basically rare stuff (except for those annoying T-Tauri's) Select a target 500-1kly ahead in the direction I am traveling and set a route, then scroll slowly backwards along the route as above with the scale as large as practical checking left, right, up, down looking for interesting things and bookmarking as I go. Once I have all the interesting stuff along the route bookmarked I just follow the route from one bookmark to the next.

That's it!

Yep I forgot to add the bit about selecting a target to aim for. That's actually quite important as a reference!!

+1

As a method it seems quite efficient. But I've yet to try it in VR having not done any *proper* exploring since getting the Rift.

varonica · Mar 25, 2019

GunnerBill said:
As a method it seems quite efficient. But I've yet to try it in VR having not done any *proper* exploring since getting the Rift.

Go ahead, you know you want to

Apsley · Mar 25, 2019

Thanks all, very useful indeed. Don't think I was that far off your methods but hadn't realised that the map looked different after the update so hadn't looked as hard as I will now.

Aps.

Arnoldo · Mar 25, 2019

varonica said:
I select O and B class, then non-sequence down to the bottom, basically rare stuff (except for those annoying T-Tauri's) Select a target 500-1kly ahead in the direction I am traveling and set a route, then scroll slowly backwards along the route as above with the scale as large as practical checking left, right, up, down looking for interesting things and bookmarking as I go. Once I have all the interesting stuff along the route bookmarked I just follow the route from one bookmark to the next.

Similar to Varonica's method; I bookmark my destination then apply a filter based on F, Non-seq, carbon etc (will add O & B as an experiment) then slowly scroll along route and bookmark anything interesting (S, MS, CN etc). I then eco-mode between the bookmarks (deleting once explored unless really interesting). Breaks monotony, provides variety..

GunnerBill · Mar 28, 2019

Arnoldo said:
Similar to Varonica's method; I bookmark my destination then apply a filter based on F, Non-seq, carbon etc (will add O & B as an experiment) then slowly scroll along route and bookmark anything interesting (S, MS, CN etc). I then eco-mode between the bookmarks (deleting once explored unless really interesting). Breaks monotony, provides variety..

It doesn't really matter (to me) what star class I add when I am searching, they are simply there to be able to see how fast you're moving your view through space while you are looking.

In some instances I've selected rarer stars if the volume I am in is particularly dense in one type of star. So it's a balance between seeing your progress and not having potential non-sequence stars swamped by too many others.