Sandro: "People who play Open versus other modes are majority, by significant margin"

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Does this mean people will stop moaning about solo/PG players having too much influence on the BGS :p <runsforit...>

No of course. They will just ignore it, because it is never player's fault. But I think what Sandro said is still relevant, especially about how it is important for them to support all modes.
 
Im glad they spoke up about this. Felt really strange people calling open players and PVPers the minority. And people not wanting open only. People are just flooding Fdev with support over it.

Felt pretty good watching people squirm after all the crap they pulled. Bandwagoning threads and what not.

SO GLAD that time is over. So frustrating.

Elite is looking great!

I might even change this god forsaken avatar.
 
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Good. Glad they cleared that up. Not that I really care one way or another anyway.

Now can the 'it's SO safe in open, come play with us' folks shut the heck up and leave already? ;)

Thats not what its about. You know it and I know it.

Its all about objectives. If we could never take objectives. No one would give a crap.
 
Felt really strange people calling open players and PVPers the minority.
Open does not equal PvP though.

Also PvP is a minority activity, so sorry if that still makes you feel strange.


EDIT: hmm context isn't clear in the video though.

Does a "solo player" clicking Open to cycle the mission board count as someone gathered in their stats as an "Open player"?
 
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Open players aren't a minority, but that doesn't equal PvP folks being the majority.

You're right. However, the issue is PVP is a small minority. And it shouldn't have ever been. But since you never needed to do it. It became that.

Now they are giving reasons to do it. The word griefer is going to die. And were gonna call it gameplay!

Exciting times ahead for sure.
 
Im glad they spoke up about this. Felt really strange people calling open players and PVPers the minority. And people not wanting open only. People are just flooding Fdev with support over it.

Felt pretty good watching people squirm after all the crap they pulled. Bandwagoning threads and what not.

SO GLAD that time is over. So frustrating.

Elite is looking great!

I might even change this god forsaken avatar.

To be fair PvP community is minority. However as Sandro says in video, it does not really matter in their decision making. They look quality of comments and arguments for making game objectively better, not "because this and this player group wants it".

But yeah, overall argument about how "no one plays Open" is weak. People lose their meta wars and throw tantrums. End of story. They want to do something about it, but they don't want to do what matters. That's why they want change rules. Nothing more. Sandro wanted to make Powerplay more important in Open, because he wants to encourage PvP within in-game rules, not force people who might not want it to play Open.

That's why modes discussion is a bit pointless on forums, because it is all meta narrative. Noise vs. signal is up there.
 
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Im well aware why its small. And so is everyone else that tries to take an objective.

No. You're not going to shift goalposts here.

You said: "Felt really strange people calling open players and PVPers the minority."

You put words into Frontier's mouth, and those words contradict what Frontier has confirmed before. Don't do that please. We can talk about whether that really matters or not (I don't think the majority should always decide what a game should contain, there's room for everyone), but let's not make PvP look like it's some sort of "silent majority".
 
I thought the comment was made about Power Play, that more people play it in open than solo & not ED in general.

This makes sense, given that the whole concept of PP is a MMO construct. As a single-player type, I would only consider PP for the carrots (modules) they dangle from a stick.
 
No. You're not going to shift goalposts here.

You said: "Felt really strange people calling open players and PVPers the minority."

You put words into Frontier's mouth, and those words contradict what Frontier has confirmed before. Don't do that please.

Yes the type of PVP I do is smaller than the rest. The type of PVP I do isint supposed to technically exist.

What supposed to have been happening is fighting over objectives.

And thats why they want to make those changes and put everyone on the same playing field. There is still PVP happening here and there. But anytime someone gets opposed. They swap modes.

My point is the PVP was never supposed to be the minority. And when this comes up. People think because its a small group of people that do it. That no one wanted to do it.

People want to do it. But either left the game, or dont do it because its unbalanced.

Remember there are TONS and TONS of people that have come and gone because of this issue.

This is why you're seeing the majority of the player base say they want open only. Because they WANT to PVP.

Not moving goal posts. Maybe I should have been more clear.
 
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