"Save and exit" - immediately leave game when not in danger

[Telakin]

I understand the timer that prevents an immediate exit to the main menu or from the game when in danger.

But when I'm not in danger - please immediately drop me out instead of prompting me "Are you sure?" and even putting the default to "no".

This must have been the 10th time or so in my 6 month career of ED that I've come back to my computer with "Your ship has been destroyed." prominently displayed.

What happened? The postman rang, I quickly choose "Save and exit to main menu" and left, forgetting again about the dialogue and having to pay my 1+ mil rebuy because some sidewinder pirate choose me for target practice while I was at the door.

There is no reason to ask me if I'm sure. I'm in no danger and if I did accidentally choose this option I can just return to the game, no possible harm done.

Please don't force me to use the "close window" option on the task bar (which doesn't care about whether I'm in danger or not).

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

This must have been the 10th time or so in my 6 month career of ED that I've come back to my computer with "Your ship has been destroyed." prominently displayed.

Fast learner

 

[M00ka]

You would think after 1o times you would learn to take that extra nano second to click on the YES button huh!.
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And please define 'Danger'? I could be in combat but I have turned away from those attacking me, I thus consider myself no longer in danger and can instantly disconnect.

 

[Morbad]

You forgot about the dialog, which pops up about half a second after clicking "save & exit", ten fatal times? Your 20+ million credit ship couldn't survive an encounter with a sidewinder unattended for a few minutes?

Okay...

Regardless, I could see the process being made faster in Solo mode without any real detriment to the game, but two clicks isn't that bad.

 

[Telakin]

"Danger" is a state defined by the game. If I'm in danger (being attacked, red ships on the radar) the "save and exit" menu prompts a 15 s timer before you can exit.

And apparently it's infrequent enough to become ingrained, probably because for me real live takes precedence in that moment. Enough to go to the menu but not for waiting for that menu to appear, choose yes and click it.

And why should I have to click it anyway, it's just a superfluous dialogue.

 

[aquantar]

Same happened to me. The OP is right that dialogue seems not to have any valid purpose. FD should get rid of it.

He should get a nod for pointing this out , not made look stupid.

The point is not that there are people who are able to hit yes in the dialogue in every situation, but that there seems to be some flawed design in ED . I wonder where all that negativity in the community comes from.

 

[AveMe]

I understand the timer that prevents an immediate exit to the main menu or from the game when in danger.

But when I'm not in danger - please immediately drop me out instead of prompting me "Are you sure?" and even putting the default to "no".

This must have been the 10th time or so in my 6 month career of ED that I've come back to my computer with "Your ship has been destroyed." prominently displayed.

What happened? The postman rang, I quickly choose "Save and exit to main menu" and left, forgetting again about the dialogue and having to pay my 1+ mil rebuy because some sidewinder pirate choose me for target practice while I was at the door.

There is no reason to ask me if I'm sure. I'm in no danger and if I did accidentally choose this option I can just return to the game, no possible harm done.

Please don't force me to use the "close window" option on the task bar (which doesn't care about whether I'm in danger or not).

it's elite DANGEROUS if you can't even close game i'm waiting for "i bought ship X without insurance and died! Make insurance free!" post.

 

[Telakin]

Regardless, I could see the process being made faster in Solo mode without any real detriment to the game, but two clicks isn't that bad.

It's got nothing to do with Solo, Private or Open.

Using Hotas and Keyboard I have to:

• Press ESC
• Press Arrow Up
• Wait for fade in
• Click right arrow
• Confirm with Enter

Instead of

• Press ESC
• Press Arrow Up
• Confirm with Enter

Or just right click Elite on the task bar and select "Close Window".

I'd rather use the proper menu then kill the task, but Microsoft is bad enough with their "Are you sure?" prompts - I really don't need another one in game.

 

[Alex Brentnall]

On slower machines the loading screen can take a minute or two. Considering "save and exit", "exit to menu" and "resume" are all next to each other this dialogue box is essential for those on slower processors.

It really isn't hard to do quickly imo and for the 3 seconds it costs you it may save minutes for others.

Edit: I also use a keyboard and hotas combo. Consider binding the menu controls to both Hotas and keyboard (via secondary option) to allow faster switching.

 

[Telakin]

Same happened to me. The OP is right that dialogue seems not to have any valid purpose. FD should get rid of it.

He should get a nod for pointing this out , not made look stupid.

The point is not that there are people who are able to hit yes in the dialogue in every situation, but that there seems to be some flawed design in ED . I wonder where all that negativity in the community comes from.

Thanks. I guess some people can't enter a thread and discussion without behaving like that.

 

[Guidebot]

This has literally never been an issue for me or any commander I know.

With respect, I think you just need to be more careful and learn to change your behavior in response to your environment. It's fairly standard for many programs to ask if you're sure you want to quit, and default the selection to "no"; just hit yes and make sure the game quits before you get up, it takes two extra seconds.

I sympathize because I often have to answer the door while playing, so I know what it's like. I just make sure nothing can go wrong before I go afk.

 

[Telakin]

On slower machines the loading screen can take a minute or two. Considering "save and exit", "exit to menu" and "resume" are all next to each other this dialogue box is essential for those on slower processors.

Sorry, but I don't understand. Why do I need to be asked if I'm sure? If I wasn't sure and accidentally chose exit in a situation without red ships I can just go back in the game. And if there are red ships I have the 15 s timer which I can just exit and resume the game.

And btw - there is no reason not to be able to leave the game without danger at any point. Some commanders consider it an exploit to leave if they're not docked and in station but I consider that .

Also, just because your word processor asks you, perhaps because you still have some text in the clipboard you might want to save, that doesn't mean its a good template for this game.

 

[Alex Brentnall]

Sorry, but I don't understand. Why do I need to be asked if I'm sure? If I wasn't sure and accidentally chose exit in a situation without red ships I can just go back in the game. And if there are red ships I have the 15 s timer which I can just exit and resume the game.

Ok, so say I am on menu in options and accidentally press "Save and quit" when I wanted to press resume.

If there is no extra screen saying "Are you sure?" then I have to restart the game and sit through that spinning orange ship loading screen, on slower machines to get from desktop to in game can take a good 3-4 minutes.

 

[AveMe]

Sorry, but I don't understand. Why do I need to be asked if I'm sure? If I wasn't sure and accidentally chose exit in a situation without red ships I can just go back in the game. And if there are red ships I have the 15 s timer which I can just exit and resume the game.

Or just learn somethink...

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

I think the game needs to ask you "Are you sure?" because you obviously don't know where you are or what you are doing as evidenced by the previous 10 deaths.

 

[Telakin]

Ok, so say I am on menu in options and accidentally press "Save and quit" when I wanted to press resume.

If there is no extra screen saying "Are you sure?" then I have to restart the game and sit through that spinning orange ship loading screen, on slower machines to get from desktop to in game can take a good 3-4 minutes.

The default when pressing ESC is "Resume" so it's much more unlikely to accidentally choose "Save and exit" or "Save and Exit to main menu". And again - if it does happen - no harm done.

If you accidentally forget to confirm with yes while you WANT to leave and are currently flying supercruise - an almost 100% chance of getting killed when away from the game for 10+ minutes.

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I think the game needs to ask you "Are you sure?" because you obviously don't know where you are or what you are doing as evidenced by the previous 10 deaths.

Or it asks me to re-confirm my intentions, which I already clearly stated by choosing the corrent menu option.

And where I am or what I'm doing is irrelevant at this point, I just want to leave the game.

 

[M00ka]

I am still kind of confused with this whole thread.
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You want a redesign of the system so you can instantly disconnect when you aren't in danger, because on 10 previous occurrences you have hit ESC, clicked on the "Save and Exit" button but didn't have the time to wait and click the "Yes" confirmation button because you had to urgently answer the door for the postman (and presumably other urgent, non-gaming activities) - have I got that right?
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So what happens if the door bell rings, or the kettle boils or nature calls when you are in danger, when there are red enemies on the scope, or if you are in SC or witch space, or about to commence docking - what do you do then?

 

[Telakin]

So what happens if the door bell rings, or the kettle boils or nature calls when you are in danger, when there are red enemies on the scope, or if you are in SC or witch space, or about to commence docking - what do you do then?

Then I can make an active decision to accept the risk, actively wait 15 s or close the window from the task bar (thereby effectively combat logging). If I'm in witch-space I don't actually care because I might get hit by 2% heat damage but I'd otherwise be safe.

Often I'm in supercruise on a long trip and reading the web, so there's not much going on in the game. If I then have to react quickly and close the game that's when I'm not concentrated enough to wait for the prompt.

If I'm mid-fight or just initiated a jump I'm actively playing and much less likely to miss the prompt.

 

[agentmoo]

Ok, so say I am on menu in options and accidentally press "Save and quit" when I wanted to press resume.

If there is no extra screen saying "Are you sure?" then I have to restart the game and sit through that spinning orange ship loading screen, on slower machines to get from desktop to in game can take a good 3-4 minutes.

This would be my reply as well.

 

[Spog]

Once again some guy dares to make a critical comment about the game and, with tedious predictability, the rent-a-fanboi mob drop in and proceed to jump up and down on him. It's a bit sad.