General / Off-Topic Scottish Referendum Result. Post your thoughts here.

[Andy Kappa]

I thought it might be appropriate to start a new thread for people to chew over the result of the Referendum. I hope it isn't misplaced...

Edit: the thread that is, not the result...

 

[Cmdr Andy B]

I thought it might be appropriate to start a new thread for people to chew over the result of the Referendum. I hope it isn't misplaced...

fix?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153135522114045

 

[Andy Kappa]

My first thought - I'm just glad I didn't have a vote, because I still don't really know which way I would have voted. As an Englishman descended from a fiery left-handed Scottish clan I have a foot in both camps.

In other matters, hopefully the margin will be large enough to calm things down fairly quickly. Having said that, the Government had better come through on its promises pretty smartly and without trying to finesse their way out of their commitments.

 

[Joe Spivey]

Awwwwwwwwwwwww.... Hey! Can we still build the wall?

Seriously though, I think sanity prevailed. Look at the way the money market is reacting and how much the pound is gaining on the back of the result. It makes you shudder what might have happened if the result had gone the other way.

 

[ianw]

Impressive turnout.

Be interesting to see if Salmond changes his tone for the "negotiations" now he's lost his big spiky stick.

 

[Yaffle]

It will be interesting to see if there is any analysis of the polling techniques used. There was a marked swing to 'NO' from the last poll done.

There is some good news for Salmond - keeping the pound is no longer a problem.

 

[Ryanextreme143]

Personally i think it was Fixed. We will be losing NHS in 5 years anyway's so i still would have took the chance to be independent than stay within the uk to see what would have happened.

 

[metatheurgist]

I think I'm not Scottish.

 

[Bazil]

A victory for sanity.

I think the whole process lacked the detail and certainty for a decision to be made. Both sides seemed to want to go into this without the detail. I think Salmond and the Yes leaders wanted to make it more about emotion and to hope everyone believed their "it'll be fine" stance. I think Salmond was more trying to manipulate people to vote yes than he was trying to persuade them.

When Cameron agreed to the referendum in this state he must have seen the uncertainty and thought that was the best tool for getting a rejection.

I'd say at 55 to 45% the movement isn't dead. It'll be at least a decade before it comes up like this again. Hopefully, when it does come up the lessons are learned and the Yes campaign have negotiated the details in advance (as far as practicable) so the nation can make an informed decision.

I hope that now, the divides can heal.

 

[Antmax]

I agree that sanity prevailed. Hopefully there will be some migration of power from Westminster. Not just to Scotland but more regional areas. I'm more concerned about the UK's future in regards to the EU and how the EU can be fixed to better support the people rather than mostly flaky failed politicians who seem to find cozy seats there.

 

[Andrew Sayers]

They love us after all

It will be interesting to see if there is any analysis of the polling techniques used. There was a marked swing to 'NO' from the last poll done.

Yeah, realistically I suspect the polls tell us what Scotland wants in principle and the vote tells us what it's ready for right now. Now we'll see decades of devolution leading eventually towards either a confident "yes" or a sustainable union.

 

[RickDangerous]

Independence but keeping the pound currency would have meant no control over fiscal policy -> disaster (see Eurozone for reference). Independence and creating a new currency in the current financial climate -> disaster. Would have been a no-win situation, so the decision was good, I think.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Given that Westminster rejected the second ballot question regarding additional devolved powers (which was favoured by the Yes campaign), it is interesting to note that additional devolved powers are now promised.

 

[ianw]

Given that Westminster rejected the second ballot question regarding additional devolved powers (which was favoured by the Yes campaign), it is interesting to note that additional devolved powers are now promised.

Heh - yes, it would seem there was a lot of squeaky bum stuff going on at Westminster in the last week or so.

Of course what actually gets delivered will be interesting to see.

And needless to say for one side it will never be enough and for the other always too much.

This one is gonna run and run..

 

[Robert Maynard]

Heh - yes, it would seem there was a lot of squeaky bum stuff going on at Westminster in the last week or so.

Of course what actually gets delivered will be interesting to see.

And needless to say for one side it will never be enough and for the other always too much.

This one is gonna run and run..

It would appear to have been that way, wouldn't it....

Absolutely - if new powers are not delivered as promised, I don't expect it to go well.

It was always going to run and run - whatever the outcome.

 

[Philip Coutts]

Well as a Scot, I'm relieved it's all over. I was a reluctant "No" voter, I would have loved to vote yes but the case just wasn't there. The yes campaign whilst compelling had no meat on the bones, even if they could have given some certainty on currency I would have been swayed. Still the results in and the turnout means that it can't be argued with the people have truly spoken.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst for real political change across Britain.

 

[Patrick_68000]

The Scots have chose at a large majority, to remain in the union. In these turbulent times, the popular wisdom has been more stronger than the thirst for adventure. Stability and security to the Kingdom, and the important influence of UK in the world, have been chosen

 

[ianw]

Well as a Scot, I'm relieved it's all over. I was a reluctant "No" voter, I would have loved to vote yes but the case just wasn't there. The yes campaign whilst compelling had no meat on the bones, even if they could have given some certainty on currency I would have been swayed. Still the results in and the turnout means that it can't be argued with the people have truly spoken.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst for real political change across Britain.

Well it's certainly unusual for the main parties to actually appear to be in agreement on something - even it is for different reasons that happen to suit their own requirements.

 

[Minti2]

AS a Scotsman living in England am very happy with the result today, many of my family and friends had the opposite view and i can only imagine how disappointed they are at the moment, but i hope they get those extra powers in the future which while it might not be a great consolation, it gives them even more control on Scotland's policy's.

Either way a fantastic turn out from both sides, Scotland can be proud, and as someone who sees himself as British am glad your staying in our little family

 

[Pennyblack]

Yesterday was a long day and I was edgy too. I'm glad it's all over and we can now put this behind us and get on with it. Scotland in my opinion has made the right choice and I am very happy that they voted to stay in the union. I watched the results most of the night and creped into bed half hour before she was due to wake. As soon as the first two declarations where made, which included Orkney's result, I kind of figured it would be no all the way, but stayed up just to make sure. I cheered silently on every result that was delivered. I only hope that any divisions that where created can heal and it makes me proud that it was a civilised affair at the ballot. I hope those who are disappointed with the outcome and those SNP members in particular, accept the peoples choice and come together for the good of the union and help serve the better interests of the UK, instead of their own.

I'll be celebrating tonight. Celebrating the fact that the majority believe that struggling together, is better than struggling against each other.

Thankyou Scotland. :smilie: