See you guys in a few months

koop26

koop26
Came back for 3.0. I spent hours and hours wasting time trying to get certain mats for what is an increasingly confusing engineering system. After confusion about how to get the mats, lots of googling and investigating, I settled on doing a wing mission for it and it doesn't even register I turned anything in.

I can't play a game where information is hard to come by and I'm constantly spinning my wheels for what seems like a ludicrous amount of time. And finally when I settle on something I can do, it doesn't work anyway.

These patches are a joke. Nice planet colors I guess? See you when the patches to the patches are out and information is readily available by the community.
 

Artemis257

Artemis257
koop26 said:
Came back for 3.0. I spent hours and hours wasting time trying to get certain mats for what is an increasingly confusing engineering system. After confusion about how to get the mats, lots of googling and investigating, I settled on doing a wing mission for it and it doesn't even register I turned anything in.

I can't play a game where information is hard to come by and I'm constantly spinning my wheels for what seems like a ludicrous amount of time. And finally when I settle on something I can do, it doesn't work anyway.

These patches are a joke. Nice planet colors I guess? See you when the patches to the patches are out and information is readily available by the community.
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did you turn the stuff in to the right spot? it's in the mission list, not the market. I did the same thing last night and only found the right spot when I went to turn the mission in....
 

GG7

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If only you had taken the advanced knowledge of the new mats system from the 3.0 Beta and stocked up on all the G5s in 2.4 like all the smart players did.

Oh well.

Bye.
 

Sylveria

Sylveria
Can I haz your....

Oh wait, you're just taking a break.

Breaks are a good idea sometimes... unless of course, you're just postponing the inevitable.
 

Lily from anim.o.v.e

Lily from anim.o.v.e
till later

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DrBo42

DrBo42
Before you get jumped on, I can empathize with the feeling of being overwhelmed. The problem is a lot of us have been playing from near the start and have had the luxury (and pain) of the slow drip of these systems so we're on a pretty different knowledge and acceptance scale.

Can you go into what parts of engineering you're having trouble with? Which recipe or which materials you can't source? They're added material and data traders in 3.0 that allow you to trade X material for Y material so if you're in a situation where you just can't find the mats you need you can trade for them. They'll be in your galaxy map filters via the Services filter (if you're with 40ly of them AND you've visited that station before IIRC). Best way is to look them up via google sadly.

Edit: In the process of writing this you were jumped on like a trampoline.
 
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koop26

koop26
DrBo42 said:
Before you get jumped on, I can empathize with the feeling of being overwhelmed. The problem is a lot of us have been playing from near the start and have had the luxury (and pain) of the slow drip of these systems so we're on a pretty different knowledge and acceptance scale.

Can you go into what parts of engineering you're having trouble with? Which recipe or which materials you can't source? They're added material and data traders in 3.0 that allow you to trade X material for Y material so if you're in a situation where you just can't find the mats you need you can trade for them. They'll be in your galaxy map filters via the Services filter (if you're with 40ly of them AND you've visited that station before IIRC). Best way is to look them up via google sadly.

Edit: In the process of writing this you were jumped on like a trampoline.
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I've been to 3 materials traders, worked out what I needed thanks to the power of Google (they should get a cut of this game's revenue), got the blueprints for G5 overcharged MCs, realized I can't do experimental so I had to go back to the engineer again, but ran short of the Modified Embedded Firmware.

Pre-patch I guess you could get them for running data courier missions but I found out the hard way after going to Sothis/CEOS that's not the case so my plan for rep grinding and MEFs went out the window. Returned back to Fujin (waiting for this system to go boom state so I can begin the grind of delivering tea for the other engineer) and decided to take a T9 and do wing missions. Sourcing Agri-Medicines. I'd get 5 MEFS for about 3 runs, seems OK. Return with it and sell it but doesn't register on the mission screen.

I took a deep breath. Recounted all the stuff I did to get to this point...realized I'm making little to no progress on just about anything I want to do. Realized there are better games to be played and that's that.

Love this community, and generally love the world of Elite. They still haven't figured out what meaningful progression means. They've still got their heads in the sand when it comes to the feeling of wasted time.
 
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GG7

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Modified Embedded Firmware is a staple of Mission Rewards.

More than half of the high paying missions offer 5 of them as one of your reward options. Planetary Scan Missions are a good source of these.

I've maxed out to the cap on mine again after engineering up all 10 of my ships under the new system. Same goes for E Focus Crystals which is another common mission reward.
 

BlackSpaceCowboy

BlackSpaceCowboy
koop26 said:
I've been to 3 materials traders, worked out what I needed thanks to the power of Google (they should get a cut of this game's revenue), got the blueprints for G5 overcharged MCs, realized I can't do experimental so I had to go back to the engineer again, but ran short of the Modified Embedded Firmware.

Pre-patch I guess you could get them for running data courier missions but I found out the hard way after going to Sothis/CEOS that's not the case so my plan for rep grinding and MEFs went out the window. Returned back to Fujin (waiting for this system to go boom state so I can begin the grind of delivering tea for the other engineer) and decided to take a T9 and do wing missions. Sourcing Agri-Medicines. I'd get 5 MEFS for about 3 runs, seems OK. Return with it and sell it but doesn't register on the mission screen.

I took a deep breath. Recounted all the stuff I did to get to this point...realized I'm making little to no progress on just about anything I want to do. Realized there are better games to be played and that's that.

Love this community, and generally love the world of Elite. They still haven't figured out what meaningful progression means. They've still got their heads in the sand when it comes to the feeling of wasted time.
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I can sympathize with much of what you're saying. I didn't play in 6 months and came back for 3.0. The main reason I stopped playing was time. The game wants more time than I have. It takes hours to do something as simple as upgrade a component on your ship. I haven't played any other game that makes upgrading this tedious.

In most games, you just unlock upgrades as you play. Or you're rewarded with some kind of upgrade credit that you can then use to choose your upgrade path.

I've never played a game where you have to travel for 30 minutes to an upgrade shop but only after spending hours searching for materials for your upgrade.

Then there is the multiplayer. There's no multiplayer browser. No easy way to join a host and play.

I've decided to just focus on bounty hunting which I enjoyed when I first started playing this game. It's only when I tried to find something more than bounty hunting that I ran into all these terrible game mechanics.

I think the core problem is the ED doesn't look at how other games have solved similar problems. They get into trouble trying to create these fresh solutions.
 
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lefty1117

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I can sympathize with the OP in that information is really not very well presented in the game, much is opaque that shouldn't be and even seemingly obvious things like allowing us to see where the material brokers are on the galmap without having to visit them first are not done, in some sort of intentional bid to frustrate customers. It makes no sense that market and service data is not made automatically available within the bubble, when everything else about the systems like population, government, economic state, newsfeeds, etc., are shared. From a lore perspective the game's systems are inconsistent with themselves which means the only reason for these decisions is to force a grind. That more than anything else is what underlies a lot of players' frustrations, I think. Things that should be basic require way too much effort. I shouldn't have to go all the way to a specific engineer to change what blueprint is pinned. I mean ... seriously? I can fly through hyperspace but I can't browse all the blueprints I've unlocked?
 
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4gui4

4gui4
koop26 said:
Came back for 3.0. I spent hours and hours wasting time trying to get certain mats for what is an increasingly confusing engineering system. After confusion about how to get the mats, lots of googling and investigating, I settled on doing a wing mission for it and it doesn't even register I turned anything in.

I can't play a game where information is hard to come by and I'm constantly spinning my wheels for what seems like a ludicrous amount of time. And finally when I settle on something I can do, it doesn't work anyway.



These patches are a joke. Nice planet colors I guess? See you when the patches to the patches are out and information is readily available by the community.
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I came back to play 4 days ago, I was far from Elite 8 months I guess...hum.
-half nightmare redoing my keybind---> mouse/Kboard
- mats and stuff I had 10 or 15 tops now have space for 200, 300 each (hs SRV,limpts and blow up some criminals for mats)
- guardians guns and power plants I want that! doing a little exploration which I don't like but is in the way so ok. I want to kill those green things.
- a lot of things that I didn't see yet like teckbrokers , the Aliance Chiftein haha that toad. What am I going to do with it? I don't even like Alliance, every bone mine is FED. Well is a ship and ship is a ship so I buy one some day . I can imagine wires around the cockpit, made of papel and glue.

Maybe when you get back I have gone , reasons, always happens to me.
 
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ZeroAi

ZeroAi
koop26 said:
Came back for 3.0. I spent hours and hours wasting time trying to get certain mats for what is an increasingly confusing engineering system. After confusion about how to get the mats, lots of googling and investigating, I settled on doing a wing mission for it and it doesn't even register I turned anything in.

I can't play a game where information is hard to come by and I'm constantly spinning my wheels for what seems like a ludicrous amount of time. And finally when I settle on something I can do, it doesn't work anyway.

These patches are a joke. Nice planet colors I guess? See you when the patches to the patches are out and information is readily available by the community.
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Wow, sounds like you had a bad time :-(

I've done multiple wing missions with issue, and found the new engineering system much better than the old, but to each his own!

See you when you come back! [big grin]
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Other then tweaking g5 loot spawn tables and the Material Trader ratios, I think engineering is in a very good place right now. Having come back into playing ED just a day before the patch I didn't have time to lay away a bunch of resources, but I was still able to find material to fully engineer to the highest possible outcome a new Chieftain in a week of pretty casual play. I had a huge grin on my face with every roll, thinking to myself how much better the new system was.
 

Hellakitty

Hellakitty
It's better, but those last half dozen at the top of G5 are absolutely soul destroying. Just make 1 roll for max G1, 2 for max G2, 3 for max G3, 4 for max G4 and 5 for max G5 and be done with it. At least when you go searching for the elusive rare mats you know just how many you need and can actually plan ahead somewhat.

Or let us pay a hefty premium in credits to have the engineer actually provide their own materials.
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
CMDR Hellakitty said:
It's better, but those last half dozen at the top of G5 are absolutely soul destroying. Just make 1 roll for max G1, 2 for max G2, 3 for max G3, 4 for max G4 and 5 for max G5 and be done with it. At least when you go searching for the elusive rare mats you know just how many you need and can actually plan ahead somewhat.

Or let us pay a hefty premium in credits to have the engineer actually provide their own materials.
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I take it you have some disposable income you'd be willing to spend?

*teehee*
 
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