Selling my Python

[akaliel]

So if I sold my Python I'll get around 150 million for it. That plus the 100 million I have in the bank would mean I can buy an Anaconda with some left over for starter modules. Is there any reason I shouldn't do this? The way I see it, the anaconda can do everything the Python can do but better. Except for better manuevability in combat. But for bounty hunting I figure I'll just spend 20 million on a Vulture and use that.

Anyway, give me your opinions.

Thanks

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Conda needs a large pad to land on.

 

[Iskariot]

The Anaconda is a great ship. No doubt about that.
But be aware that the total costs depend on what you want to do with it.
I advise using one of the ship builder sites to get an idea what the total costs might be for what you are planning + add money for cargo (if you wanna trade) and insurance.
Do not fall into the insurance trap, thinking you can do a few runs without it. The ED universe will bite your head off if you least expect it, especially after 2.1.
http://coriolis.io/
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=201,5QG5QG,2-3w3w3w2M2M2M22,7Og03w2Uc

Also the Python can land at any station. The Anaconda can not. But this is less of a problem if you have Horizons as many systems now also have large pads at planets.
I have an Anaconda, but somehow I am always drawn back to my Python. I will never sell that ship, that is why I bought virtually every skin for it.

 

[GJ51]

A rated Python is currently best in game for advancing with engineers.

 

[GTwannabe]

So if I sold my Python I'll get around 150 million for it. That plus the 100 million I have in the bank would mean I can buy an Anaconda with some left over for starter modules. Is there any reason I shouldn't do this? The way I see it, the anaconda can do everything the Python can do but better. Except for better manuevability in combat. But for bounty hunting I figure I'll just spend 20 million on a Vulture and use that.

Anyway, give me your opinions.

Thanks

I've sold and rebought my Python 3 times now.

Anaconda has some serious downsides:

1. Can't land at outposts, which significantly restricts your mission options. Definitely makes gaining rep a longer process.
2. Total pig in supercruise. You will hate your life after every jump.
3. Significant re-buy (10 million+) if you have an oopsie.

 

[Bacalao]

Conda needs a large pad to land on.

This is a big one but you'll also notice a big drop in supercruise maneuverability and normal flight speed/handling. On the plus side, the anaconda is a fantastic ship and you can make one very capable for under 200 million.
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In the end it will depend on what you want to do (Anaconda won't necessarily let you do most missions better than a python will), but you can always go back to the Python if the Anaconda doesn't suit you.

 

[akaliel]

Hmmm thanks.

 

[d8veh]

Hmmm!. The way I see it is that an A-rated Python would be better than a C-rated Anaconda. You need to spend 500 million on an Anaconda to do anything useful, other than exploring outside the bubble, otherwise you'll be spending a lot on rebuys.

 

[Odan Brota]

anaconda is the better ship, but only after an extreme investment. I've spent around 400 million to get mine A rated.

Makes engineers easy, though. You'd probably have a better time in a Python though.

 

[Bacalao]

Hmmm!. The way I see it is that an A-rated Python would be better than a C-rated Anaconda. You need to spend 500 million on an Anaconda to do anything useful, other than exploring outside the bubble, otherwise you'll be spending a lot on rebuys.

anaconda is the better ship, but only after an extreme investment. I've spent around 400 million to get mine A rated.

Makes engineers easy, though. You'd probably have a better time in a Python though.

These are silly statements, you don't need the 8A PP or the mil spec armor to make the anaconda viable and those are about the only two ways you can get the price of it up that high.

 

[relayer]

Before I got my Anaconda, I steeped myself in the posts and discussions about ships. There are a few drawbacks.

#1 is mentioned by several others above; landing pad size. You'll have to be careful selecting missions and trading routes to make sure you can land the thing.

#2 Anacondas are for trading & exploring. Yes, you can probably find some "hunter" Anaconda loadout threads. YMMV

#3 No matter what, the Anaconda is going to take some pounding, so it would be un-good to use weak shields. A 7A shield generator for an Anaconda is 51mil credits. A 7C Bi-Weave shield is 8.5mil, but you can't run fast enough to have it recharge for a second pass. You want your shield to survive some pretty heavy initial fire while you're spooling up your FSD.

#4 You're going to need credits for your cargo. Enough so you can fill your hold and move some expensive commodities like palladium to recoup the cost of the ship.

#5 You do not want to fly an Anaconda without insurance. Just don't do it.


Here is my A-rated trading 'Conda loadout. [ 383,540,010 ] Notice that I do indeed have a 5A shield generator, but its strength is boosted via 8 0A shield boosters:

5,103,950cr (5A) + 2,248,000cr (8 0A boosters) = 7,351,950 for effective shield strength of 1,101.81 MJ.

a 6A = 16,179,530cr for an effective shield strength of 502.34 MJ

a 7A, as mentioned, is 51,289,110 for an effective shield strength of 595.00 MJ (of course, you could add boosters to it but will you have any credits left after purchasing a 7A?)

Also, this is a defensive build; I never fly without shields or weapons. You can if you like, but there are many sad stories to give you an idea why you want shields. For one thing, getting used to getting the 'Conda in and out of stations will result in some pretty punishing hits til you get used to her. Shields will save you.

- all this to say that you should think about this purchase. You might be OK with gimballed weapons but you're going to be fighting the Anaconda's turning rate. The sensible thing for Annies is turreted weapons; lots of them.

Hope this helps at least to clarify some of the issues and get you thinking.

 

[Odan Brota]

These are silly statements, you don't need the 8A PP or the mil spec armor to make the anaconda viable and those are about the only two ways you can get the price of it up that high.

I don't use the milspec armor (yet), but the 8A power plant is useful since you typically finish a decent load out with 7% power to spare with everything deployed. Currently it can save your behind when you start taking hits to the PP, but it'll factor in more with engineers and the increased power draw.

 

[akaliel]

Oh I never fly anything without shields. I made that mistake in my mining type 6 once. Just once. Never again.

The build I was thinking of was a huge gimbal beam, missiles on the mediums and turrets everywhere else.

I wasn't going to bring it bounty hunting. That's why I mentioned buying a vulture. Which I would trade in for a fas when I had the money.

But I think I've decided to hold off for now. I'll keep my Python until I can afford to buy the condo straight out.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

Stock Anaconda is a rebuy waiting to happen. Costs a lot to get a Conda battle ready.

 

[PavelKCZ]

So if I sold my Python I'll get around 150 million for it. That plus the 100 million I have in the bank would mean I can buy an Anaconda with some left over for starter modules. Is there any reason I shouldn't do this? The way I see it, the anaconda can do everything the Python can do but better. Except for better manuevability in combat. But for bounty hunting I figure I'll just spend 20 million on a Vulture and use that.

Anyway, give me your opinions.

Thanks

Well, 250 MCr is not enough even for a decent trading Anaconda in 2.1

If you want to use the Conda for trade in this new and much harder Galaxy, you will need something like this:

https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda...4.Iw18ZlA=.IwBhCYy6duuEA===?bn=trade Anaconda

approx. 345 MCr (ship) + 3x 17MCR (multiple insurance) + 10MCr (cargo) - approx 400 MCr


P.S. This is only a trading ship, not properly outfitted for combat, just some turrets and a bit of shielding to be able to survive the interdictions from more agile ships (when Conda is full of valuable cargo) and have enough time to run away by Low or High Wake.

 

[GJ51]

Don't overlook the Python's cheaper re-buy

 

[DukeIronHand]

Not much help, never having flown a Anaconda, but I would stick with the Python for many of the reasons aforementioned. Great ship that you can configure to do anything well. Other ships may do a specific job better but the Python is a true multi-role ship. My one regret from my latest career restart is now not having one.

 

[PavelKCZ]

Not much help, never having flown a Anaconda, but I would stick with the Python for many of the reasons aforementioned. Great ship that you can configure to do anything well. Other ships may do a specific job better but the Python is a true multi-role ship. My one regret from my latest career restart is now not having one.

Anaconda is also a true multi-role ship, probably the best multi-role ship in game. Just the CAPEX and OPEX of Anaconda and proper outfittings are a much higher for this ship. I know it, I have both the Conda and the Python

 

[Titan1978]

Need 500 mill at least for A-Spec 'Conda! And be wary of the insurance - the combat AI = Insurance Bleed

 

[Moritz Norman]

The Python is really shining in 2.1. It's a great all-purpose.

I had a budget Annie trader and didn't like it that much. I mean it did its job and traded well, but the slow supercruise turning was painful. I shelved my plans to explore in it and sold it when I knew I wasn't going to be focusing on trading for a bit.