Serious Performance Problem

PashPliskin

PashPliskin
It doesn't matter what setting I'm playing on, the game constantly stutters/loses frames, especially when looking around at stations.
I tried medium settings,high settings,low...the stuttering remains.
The only thing that seems to help is disabling V-Sync, but then I get screen tearing (buying a g-sync monitor is out of the question).
Is there a solution to this? I'm using a 2GB GTX 960,an i5 4460 and 8gb of ram.
Thanks in advance!
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Driver update? BIOS update?
File system check?
There could be large number of things causing this.
Antivirus running? Superfetch enabled? Windows Indexing?
 

Shadowed

Shadowed
What resolution is this, 1080p? Are you using Supersampling? Press CTRL-F to monitor in game FPS and report
back.

Does stuttering go away at 0.5x Supersampling? Have you updated your drivers from Geforce.com?

I highly recommend monitoring your GPU usage, memory usage, and temps using MSI Afterburner so you can figure this out.
 

Morgan Wolfe

M
Process questions

  1. Has it ever worked correctly?
  2. If yes, when did it stop working correctly?
  3. What changed around that time?

People have noted before that sometimes driver updates (or Windows updates) introduce performance problems where none existed before. If this is something that was installed recently, and then the problems started, try uninstalling (rolling back) the driver or update and test it again.

Remember to make one change and then test, so you can tell what actually makes the difference. Good luck!
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
I can run elite comfortably on a laptop with a gtx 860m at medium settings at 1080p. I put it on medium to get over 60fps constant, otherwise I could run on high at 40fps-ish. His hardware definitely isn't the problem.
 

Bortas

Bortas
PashPliskin said:
It doesn't matter what setting I'm playing on, the game constantly stutters/loses frames, especially when looking around at stations.
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The latest Microsoft update caused that to me, due to the meltdown/spectre mitigation. Haswell CPUs seem to be hit especially hard.

Try uninstalling or disabling the patch. After I did that performance went back to normal.
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
Bortas said:
The latest Microsoft update caused that to me, due to the meltdown/spectre mitigation. Haswell CPUs seem to be hit especially hard.

Try uninstalling or disabling the patch. After I did that performance went back to normal.
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I thought about this but didn't want to mention it cos I wasn't sure. That's harsh if that's the case.
 

rrobes

R
If everything is the same before and after the problem (no software updates, no hardware changes), it could be a hardware issue.

If you have someone that could lend you a video card, you could swap yours out and see if that resolves the issue.

If you play other games, do other games behave similarly?

It takes some troubleshooting.

I had an issue w/ a brand new high-end AMD card that rendered it unusable, so things can go bad from new or wear out.

2GB card has to work hard w/ ED. I would try to rule out if it's a card issue first.

Good luck.

As to the Haswells, I run an i7 4790 and I am in the slow pre-release Windows group (installed an extensive update yesterday) so I get stuff before it goes for mass release. I've experienced no issues w/ ED. I have 16Gb of ram, a MIS GTX1070 Gaming X running w/ no OC at all ultra settings.

The problem is different systems react differently. OP could try to back to an earlier restore point.
 
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MickyG1982

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rrobes said:
As to the Haswells, I run an i7 4790 and I am in the slow pre-release Windows group (installed an extensive update yesterday) so I get stuff before it goes for mass release.

The problem is different systems react differently. OP could try to back to an earlier restore point.
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Actually a very very good point, Windows Updates are a massive processor hog. It's also worth noting that ED can use up all your (2Gb of) VRAM at 720p, let alone 1080p, I definitely wouldn't be going for anything higher than that using the 2Gb 960 (speaking from experience here).
 

Roybe

Roybe
Can you borrow some RAM from someone...increasing to to 16 gigs might be an easier option. I upgraded my RAM to 24 gigs...and found a lot of games that were acting weird, straightened out. It seems that the ones that were being a pain wanted to run in 9-10 gigs of RAM.
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
Roybe said:
Can you borrow some RAM from someone...increasing to to 16 gigs might be an easier option. I upgraded my RAM to 24 gigs...and found a lot of games that were acting weird, straightened out. It seems that the ones that were being a pain wanted to run in 9-10 gigs of RAM.
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There's an easy way to see if you need more RAM. Open Task Manager. Is it using all the RAM? No? Then you don't need any more. While that might seem laughably basic, that is exactly what it comes down to and nothing more. Is it being used? No? Then you don't need more.
 

Raino

Raino
Aashenfox said:
There's an easy way to see if you need more RAM. Open Task Manager. Is it using all the RAM? No? Then you don't need any more. While that might seem laughably basic, that is exactly what it comes down to and nothing more. Is it being used? No? Then you don't need more.
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just to make sure
physical ram

not virtual!
 

Achilles7

Banned
Achilles7
Suvi Anwar said:
Both his CPU and GPU are low budget models, gonna be tough trying to run ED @ 1080p on that.
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About 2 1/2 yrs ago I built two rigs one for myself with 16GB RAM, 4790k & GTX970 & one as a present for my little brother with 8GB, 4570 & GTX 960 2GB. I ended up giving the better rig to my brother - since he played a lot of Witcher at 1440 - after it became apparent that the 960 was easily capable of running ED on ultra settings at 60FPS.

Even after Horizons this was still possible by reducing SS to 1.0 (with the exception of planet surfaces where the average FPS varied between 45-55). I provided a clear caveat that if subsequent updates to ED caused framerate drops, I'd be 'coming for him' to retrieve my 970 - this never happened & I continued to play on that card up until I replaced my rig with a new one at the end of last year!

Please do the OP a favour & don't post erroneous info...thaaaaanks!
 

Ceekay

Ceekay
ED runs fine for me at 1080p (in game medium setting @ 60 fps with occasional drops entering stations) on a Phenom 955 (now that's an old CPU! ;)), 8Gb DDR3, 2Gb 960, try checking the computers advanced power settings as USB, wireless adaptors and PCI can go into suspend mode in some default power settings.
 

the100thmonkey

the100thmonkey
MickyG1982 said:
Actually a very very good point, Windows Updates are a massive processor hog. It's also worth noting that ED can use up all your (2Gb of) VRAM at 720p, let alone 1080p, I definitely wouldn't be going for anything higher than that using the 2Gb 960 (speaking from experience here).
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E:D runs fine at high/1080p on a GTX 1050 2GB.

Planet surfaces are an issue, as I drop to about 45fps at large bases, but I don't get any stutter whatsoever. I'd suggest that a 4GB graphics card is a good option anyway--for other games--but not right now when crypto mining is forcing the price of GPUs through the roof. I could sell my year old 1070 for more than I bought it for were I so inclined.
 
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