Newcomer / Intro Setting up a logistics team - Best ship for trade?

Xergxes7

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Hey guys! I have had elite for a bit now but haven't gotten into using the forums yet.

Friend and I are busy focusing on trading missions and logistics as a whole.

I am torn between saving up over 150mil for the type-9 upgraded, or to take a type-7. The biggest issues I can foresee from both are power problems. Lots of turret mounts but the FSD drives we require are very power hungry.

From analysis I am of the opinion the type-7 has the best distance to cargo ratio, but I am unaware of the total distance a Type-9 can cover, with, if possible, more jumps.

Any advice?
 

D.G.Cerberus

D.G.Cerberus
Depends on your objective really.

1) The T7 doesn't get a lot of love and is often called a "Death trap". Not had one myself but doesn't sound good!
2) T9 is also not one I have had (much) experience in as I did my sums wrong long ago and traded my Python - I could afford the T9, just not the cargo racks....or cargo ! That said, its very popular with certain CMDRs who make it work and even combat in it. I believe I am correct in saying only for short haul cargo runs in the bubble though.
3) So if you are after the larger profits (and it doesn't necessarily have to be Sothis/ Ceos etc - there are other opportunities at much shorter haul such as Wu Guinagi etc) then you want range for less hops. AspX fitted for cargo....ultimately an engineer modded 'Conda perhaps.

So if you have a well paying short haul route then T9. Slightly longer, why not the Python and prior to that the AspX which gives you the best of both long and short haul (and is also a fabulous Rares trader - if you aren't into rares yet google rare trade routes for the generic map we all used at some point)

If you have the rank, why not aspire to the Clipper - beautiful to fly.

And don't forget the humble yet competent (and fast) T6

Fly safe CMDR
 

Miklos Atreides

Miklos Atreides
Xergxes7 said:
Hey guys! I have had elite for a bit now but haven't gotten into using the forums yet.

Friend and I are busy focusing on trading missions and logistics as a whole.

I am torn between saving up over 150mil for the type-9 upgraded, or to take a type-7. The biggest issues I can foresee from both are power problems. Lots of turret mounts but the FSD drives we require are very power hungry.

From analysis I am of the opinion the type-7 has the best distance to cargo ratio, but I am unaware of the total distance a Type-9 can cover, with, if possible, more jumps.

Any advice?
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A very good trader with self defense option is a Clipper.
Once having a rank to buy one you get a upper 3rd jump range with good speed and turn rates.
Proeprly fitted it can take 200t easily and there is room for +200 MJ shields. Running and defending
the ship is possible whatever you prefer or what the interdictor is.
Only 1 con. Can't land at outposts so you rely on big pads.
if you need medium pad the Phyton is the biggest carrier you can have with being able to have a load
of weapons as well. But it can't run very good.

Regards,
Miklos
 

Mysturji

Mysturji
Xergxes7 said:
Hey guys! I have had elite for a bit now but haven't gotten into using the forums yet.

Friend and I are busy focusing on trading missions and logistics as a whole.

I am torn between saving up over 150mil for the type-9 upgraded, or to take a type-7. The biggest issues I can foresee from both are power problems. Lots of turret mounts but the FSD drives we require are very power hungry.

From analysis I am of the opinion the type-7 has the best distance to cargo ratio, but I am unaware of the total distance a Type-9 can cover, with, if possible, more jumps.

Any advice?
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Ever been in a Type 6?
Think that's bad?
The T7 is worse, in every way, except cargo space.
The T9 is useless in a fight, but at least it can survive long enough to run away from one, and it holds shedloads more cargo.
A T9, upgrades with a decent PP and a reasonable shield, and the right route, can rake in 1M+ Cr per leg (and that doesn't include slaves or smuggling)
A-grade it, sacrifice some cargo space for a huge shield generator, add SB's and a SCB or 2 and it can tank with the best of them.
Yes, it steers like a house, and I could make it tankier, but the "Lumbering Behemoth" is a survivor, with a license to print money.
https://coriolis.io/outfit/type_9_h...2022f.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==?bn=Lumbering Behemoth
 

Xergxes7

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Mysturji said:
Ever been in a Type 6?
Think that's bad?
The T7 is worse, in every way, except cargo space.
The T9 is useless in a fight, but at least it can survive long enough to run away from one, and it holds shedloads more cargo.
A T9, upgrades with a decent PP and a reasonable shield, and the right route, can rake in 1M+ Cr per leg (and that doesn't include slaves or smuggling)
A-grade it, sacrifice some cargo space for a huge shield generator, add SB's and a SCB or 2 and it can tank with the best of them.
Yes, it steers like a house, and I could make it tankier, but the "Lumbering Behemoth" is a survivor, with a license to print money.
https://coriolis.io/outfit/type_9_h...2022f.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==?bn=Lumbering Behemoth
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I do currently roll around with a fully fitted Type-6, call her Red Betty. Will consider the Type-9 as I see there's not much love for the Type-7 and most of my haulage missions are within 50ly of my home base.

Unfortunately the Clipper suggestions are great, but, I am part of the Federation so that is not an option unless I defect now and start focusing on ranking up with the Empire. But I have quite bad rep with them already.
 

Cmdr Dervish

Cmdr Dervish
Xergxes7 said:
Hey guys! I have had elite for a bit now but haven't gotten into using the forums yet.

Friend and I are busy focusing on trading missions and logistics as a whole.

I am torn between saving up over 150mil for the type-9 upgraded, or to take a type-7. The biggest issues I can foresee from both are power problems. Lots of turret mounts but the FSD drives we require are very power hungry.

From analysis I am of the opinion the type-7 has the best distance to cargo ratio, but I am unaware of the total distance a Type-9 can cover, with, if possible, more jumps.

Any advice?
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Hi Xergxes7,

In my opinion, best ships depending on your price point are as follows.

Hauler start of game.
Cobra once you have the money
Asp Explorer Jump distance and cargo space is good
Python again Jump distance with 200 T of cargo space which is what I am using at the moment.

good luck with your endeavour.
 

Rob_the_Sparky

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Not flown the T7 as I don't like being so defenceless. I went for the Clipper and it is still one of my favourite ships. I have also flown T6, T9, Python and Anaconda. My trade T9 was hardier than I had expected (all beam laser turret set-up but pre-2.1 NPC upgrade), but quick it is not (mine could not exceed the 100m/s speed limit with 2 pips in engines!). Main T9 drawback is its short jump range so at its best on short trade routes. Python is not a bad ship and I seem to be in the minority in preferring the Clipper or Anaconda.
 

Xergxes7

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Cmdr Dervish said:
Hi Xergxes7,

In my opinion, best ships depending on your price point are as follows.

Hauler start of game.
Cobra once you have the money
Asp Explorer Jump distance and cargo space is good
Python again Jump distance with 200 T of cargo space which is what I am using at the moment.

good luck with your endeavour.
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Thanks for this! That Python looks like my next step after my current Type-6 - It seems to fit what I need perfectly
 

CMDR Mr. Boombastic

CMDR Mr. Boombastic
A D-rated T9 (205m/s boost speed) can be a killer in the right hands as long as keep the NPC 'on your six'. No good for PvP though. So any other ship setup for trading will be a step-up and will make mincemeat of NPCs. Fly close to a star and you can have a nice BBQ going. :cool:
[video=youtube_share;ZzRLt0Zm8Nk]https://youtu.be/ZzRLt0Zm8Nk[/video]
 

colprice2002

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Best cargo ship depends on your cash resources...

In my view, in order of cost:-

Hauler _ decent range, limited cargo space, defenceless, but good to get the cash flow by taking missions
Cobra - excellent speed, good cargo space for its size, adequatearmament/shields, make you first million here (and I still have mine for smuggling.
Type 6 - great for hauling 70 or so tons of cargo, excellent boost speed to run away (defenceless, but good shield), great jump range.
Use with Robigo/Sothis runs for multi million Cr runs.
Asp - better armed than the type 6, excellent jump range, tougher shields (needs them, it a big target). Similar cargo space to the T6 when using fuel scoops. Most versatile ship.
Python - excellent defensively armed trader, capable of landing at any outpost. Tough shields, but slower than lots of ships.
Clipper - excellent ship for cargo, can be well armed, but has weak shields in comparison to Python. However, can run out of conflicts on boost and has a better range than the Python. Requires an imperial rank...
Anaconda - good cargo, good armament, good shields and jump range. Not very fast, so you need the good shields and weaponry. It will cost you at least double the purchase cost to outfit properly, and you'll need about 18 MCr for insurance rebuys.
Imperial Cutter - my favourite. Over 600t ca FYI jump range over 21 ly (engineer mods). Can take on Anaconda or FdL and win.
Again you'll need an imperial rank and shedloads of credits, and you're restricted to large pads.

For starting out, Cobra->T6 -> Python or Clippe. I made elite trading in my t6.
 

Seneleron

Seneleron
Anaconda hands down for long haul travel. With an A4 and stacked shield banks you get plenty of shield, and with FSD tuning and dirty drive she runs halfway decent for a mostly D spec'd ship. Just did my FSD today, rank 3: 41 LY. Plus 420t cargo space.

my favorite to FLY is the Clipper, even though it carries half the cargo though. Same FSD/thruster mods, and the thing breaks 470 on boosts!

The Type 6 also seems to be one of the most undervalued ships in the game. It's nimble-ish, gets a decent jump range, and hauls as much as an Asp Explorer, with the added benefit of "you're not flying a POS ASP EXPLORER"! [sorry, I've taken an irrational dislike to the the Asp Exp. Most bland and boring cockpit in the game!]

Everyone loves the Python, it's the only decent cargo capacity ship that will hit a medium pad, and i suppose if you engineer it up it won't fly worse than an E spec'd anaconda with grade down distributor and minimum thrusters.

I won't do more than mention the Cutter, as I'm still 3 ranks short [just hit count] and i'm ready to throw up all over rank grinding.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
When I started E D (over a year ago) I worked up to a T7 and actually quite enjoyed it, I had a couple of nice-earning two and three-leg routes. At the time, with a 6A shield, I was able to withstand an attack long enough to jump out after being interdicted. When I could afford it I made the move to a trading Python and that made life much more enjoyable. I don't know how survivable a T7 would be these days, I skipped that ship when I started a second commander.

I did run a T9 for a while (milking some imp single-hops) but it was horrible to fly, it's jump range was bad and was a pirate-magnet - as soon as I could afford it I dumped that for an anaconda.

Nothing beats the Cutter for sheer tonnage but the anaconda is a much more capable ship for other things (my cutter is only used in trade CGs).

However don't overlook the Python, the ability to haul over 200t and still land at outposts makes it an essential in every hangar (even if it is not as good in combat as it used to be) and if you want to run trade missions then that ability can be important.


[alien]
 

goemon

goemon
the federal dropship is very often overlooked as a step up to a python for bulk haulage.

if we are talking non-mission trading, i'd go t6-AspE-Federal Dropship (- clipper) - Python - t9 (- conda) (- imperial cutter).

a trading AspE is great for mission trading, but a t6 performs nearby as well. a trading python isn't something to sell later, because it is the largest medium pad ship. t9 beats conda for lowrange bulk trading, but jumprange and defense of a conda make it more usefull for everything else trading.
 

CMDR N8TM8T

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I also recommend and Asp Explorer, it makes up for a smaller cargo capacity with GREAT jump range. It can also double as an exploration ship and if fitted correctly can be an ok combat ship against bots. Plus compared to other trade ships, the rebuy is low. Even A-rated my asp's rebuy is less than 2 million, this compares to my Python, whos rebuy is 11 million.
 
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