Shelving the DK2 for ED ... until I find a solution

Tovrin

Tovrin
I love the immersion of the Oculus Rift, but two things have had me shelve it for ED.

* the heat in summer over here (in Australia) makes it horrible to wear; and
* the resolution and screen door effect make system exploration very difficult.

The first one is not really and issue for the OR; it's just a reality. The second one however is something that needs to improve with the Rift. One thing I've noticed is that system exploration needs keen observation of objects at a distance not moving the same way as the background stars. Some of these objects may be just one or two pixels in diameter and you just can't pick that up with the OR.

I've been trying to use an EDTracker to give myself the best of both worlds, but the model I have drifts so badly I need to reset it every minute or so (... yes I have calibrated it ... many times. I think I've just got a dud unit), so that's not really an option.

I wish there was a way to display the game on my normal monitor and then put the OR on when I want to go into combat. Does anyone know of an option that allows me to do this?
 

Dooguk

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I agree with you on the exploration point. Trying to find that moving speck against the background is very difficult.
But it's an Oculus problem really. We will have to wait for the CV1 I think.
 

Raxxla

Raxxla
This may seem weird but I've used one of these USB fans to blow on the oculus DK2, While it's not the best solution, it does work. The DK2 has a USB port on the top, you plug this fan into it. and have it blow on your mask and the top of your head. It's nothing amazing, but it does work, and it lowers the temp to a somewhat comfortable situation, that I can play for as long as I want. It doesn't spin fast enough to hurt you, but it will give you a scare when you forget it's sitting there. It adds a little weight to the front but nothing too noticeable. I ran into the same situation that the mask gets too hot for my liking. I hope they solve this issue for the CV1.
 
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Spork

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Tovrin said:
I've been trying to use an EDTracker to give myself the best of both worlds, but the model I have drifts so badly I need to reset it every minute or so (... yes I have calibrated it ... many times. I think I've just got a dud unit), so that's not really an option.
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Sounds like you have a DK1 not a DK2? I have one and the drifting made it unusable at times. Large headphones can make it worse. There shouldn't be any need to use edtracker with a DK2 if you have the camera working.

If you have a DK1 then I can understand why exploration would be so difficult. I have both versions and I couldn't imagine trying to do it with the DK1. It still isn't easy with DK2. Shame the higher tier system scanners are so expensive.

I'm also in Aus and I don't use it without a fan blowing on me. I do simracing as well which can get pretty hot and sweaty. I've also experimented with using a fish tank pump to blow air into the DK1. Seemed to work ok but the pump I had was too noisy.
 

Darth Sidious

Darth Sidious
I bought a secondhand motorcyclehelmet and am planning to convert it into a space/rift-helmet because of the same reasons. Its either too warm or too cold with condensed lenses. Also wearing headphones in combination with a rift isn't really comfortable. So that's how I thought of a helmet. It should be able to take all presure of your head.
have the audio build within have a decent airflow. And create darkness for immersion.
I would probably look like my young apprentice but hey ,wouldn't that be considered succes?

..But then again I will probably not.
besides from being reluctant to damage a Dk2 and a good headset with a good chance of failure.
I haven't really got the time to do so..
dream on..
 

cherbert

cherbert
Dooguk said:
I agree with you on the exploration point. Trying to find that moving speck against the background is very difficult.
But it's an Oculus problem really. We will have to wait for the CV1 I think.
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Sorry if I'm being thick here but why do you need to do that? Why don't you use the D-Scanner?
 

Borgkube

Borgkube
Tovrin said:
I love the immersion of the Oculus Rift, but two things have had me shelve it for ED.

* the heat in summer over here (in Australia) makes it horrible to wear; and
* the resolution and screen door effect make system exploration very difficult.

The first one is not really and issue for the OR; it's just a reality. The second one however is something that needs to improve with the Rift. One thing I've noticed is that system exploration needs keen observation of objects at a distance not moving the same way as the background stars. Some of these objects may be just one or two pixels in diameter and you just can't pick that up with the OR.

I've been trying to use an EDTracker to give myself the best of both worlds, but the model I have drifts so badly I need to reset it every minute or so (... yes I have calibrated it ... many times. I think I've just got a dud unit), so that's not really an option.

I wish there was a way to display the game on my normal monitor and then put the OR on when I want to go into combat. Does anyone know of an option that allows me to do this?
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If you buy the beta version, you get the beta bugs.
 

Tovrin

Tovrin
Spork said:
Sounds like you have a DK1 not a DK2? I have one and the drifting made it unusable at times. Large headphones can make it worse. There shouldn't be any need to use edtracker with a DK2 if you have the camera working.
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Nope. I have a DK2. I didn't buy a DK1. I think you misread my post .... I tried using the EDTracker INSTEAD of the Oculus.

cherbert said:
Sorry if I'm being thick here but why do you need to do that? Why don't you use the D-Scanner?
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Price? I don't have that kind of money yet.

Borgkube said:
If you buy the beta version, you get the beta bugs.
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Ah. If only there was downvoting for patronising, pointless and unhelpful rubbish comments like this. Got anything useful to say?

Like ... does anyone know how to display the image on the monitor AND have the OR running at the same time?
 
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cherbert

cherbert
Tovrin said:
Price? I don't have that kind of money yet.
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oh right sorry. I'm an Alpha Backer and started in a fully equipped Cobra. It never occured to me the D-Scanner was an expensive bit of kit. I didn't do much exploration in my Sidewinder beta/gamma days. I always assumed everyone had the D-Scanner and that I had just never used it - I guess I was mistaken.
 

Malic

Malic
Tovrin said:
Nope. I have a DK2. I didn't buy a DK1. I think you misread my post .... I tried using the EDTracker INSTEAD of the Oculus.



Price? I don't have that kind of money yet.



Ah. If only there was downvoting for patronising, pointless and unhelpful rubbish comments like this. Got anything useful to say?

Like ... does anyone know how to display the image on the monitor AND have the OR running at the same time?
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Yeah, in the appconfig.xml file located in the elite section EDLaunch\Products\FORC-FDEV-D-1002

between the </Display> and the <Threads> section paste the following:

<StereoExtraDisplay>
<Enabled>true</Enabled>
<Monitor>0</Monitor>
<Width>900</Width>
<Height>1000</Height>
<VSync>false</VSync>
<BehaviourIfStereoRenderDisabled>HideWindow</BehaviourIfStereoRenderDisabled>
</StereoExtraDisplay>
 

Tovrin

Tovrin
Malic said:
Yeah, in the appconfig.xml file located in the elite section EDLaunch\Products\FORC-FDEV-D-1002

between the </Display> and the <Threads> section paste the following:

<StereoExtraDisplay>
<Enabled>true</Enabled>
<Monitor>0</Monitor>
<Width>900</Width>
<Height>1000</Height>
<VSync>false</VSync>
<BehaviourIfStereoRenderDisabled>HideWindow</BehaviourIfStereoRenderDisabled>
</StereoExtraDisplay>
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AH. Thanks.
 

Raptoyd

Raptoyd
Not sure what happened yesterday but first as per the advice I have received on here I measured and made sure my IPD was set up correctly 65mm ( thinking this might have been a big part of it) then logged in and the game seemed to apply a patch yesterday but OMG I can see, what a differnce and I have not even changed the HUD colors yet but just seems like about a 90% improvement over what I had before. I could not even hardly play it before had to go to the monitor. This is exciting cannot wait for the weekend now as had to go back to work. Thanks for all the advice on here you guys are outstanding as I have been reading your posts everyday for the last week and a lot of great information on here, kudos.
 

Phier

Phier
Real world solution. Air conditioning.

I know its one of those things not "big" outside of the US but my mancave is at a constant 73 or so degrees. Makes fogging and sweat a non-issue, summer or winter.
 

Caffinated

C
1) air conditioning. I don't know how people survive in the hot climates without making this solid investment.

2) some say changing the color of the hud to something high contrast makes a difference. If you have very powerful video hardware (probably need SLI) you could also try DSR which makes a massive improvement to text quality.

Honestly I don't think throwing more money at it is a good solution, I'd wait to see if improvements are made in other ways.
 
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