Ship Integrity, Clipper vs Python

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97% is the Clipper, a 22 Million ship

94% is the Python, a Fiftysomething Million ship.

Can someone explain to me the difference here?


FD, maybe all those complaints about hull integrity come from some of the ship numbers being incorrect, not Integrity as a whole being broken?
 
Its based on the value of the ship Quineloe i think, when you mentioned this to me yesterday i was intrigued but I can assure you 6% integrity on my python is probably 100-150k :/

Edit: I'll dock in a minute and post a shot of my bill so we can compare
 
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Wow my integrity repair went up to 104k while the Clipper was docked.

But I bought a 7B shield generator. Let's see..

Oh look, after switching to the python, then back to the clipper (It did not change right away), the repair is down to 77,622 credits (I bought a bit more stuff than just the shield generator) after having sold the Shield generator!

It's actually based on the value of your entire ship, not just the hull - disregard the fact that you can just sell all outfittings, then buy them back.

What amazes me is that the Clipper is only at around 90 million credits while the python is at 65 million - yet the Clipper is far, far more expensive to maintain hull integrity on.
 
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Maybe because the Clipper is shiny and driven by people with too much money, and the Python is driven by old men in cardigans. You know what mechanics are like, they saw you coming !

(I own a Clipper, have no money, and like cardigans)
 
This is ridiculous and has to change. We've had enough discussions about this now that FD should realize this. I wonder how civlization got that far out with traveling costs as high as these.
 
Looks like FD are making complicated rod for their backs, hull integrity should be just that, if any other modules are damaged then they are repaired in their own right.

What a mess.
 
Maybe because the Clipper is shiny and driven by people with too much money, and the Python is driven by old men in cardigans. You know what mechanics are like, they saw you coming !

(I own a Clipper, have no money, and like cardigans)

As Derath clearly states here, his combat Python is more expensive on Integrity than my Combat Clipper. So that's not it. It is in fact that outfittings drive up the price of the ship integrity.

How to keep integrity damage costs down:

1. Sell everything
2. switch to another ship
3. switch back
4. Repair Integrity
5. Buy back everything
 
Ah, din't read.

Should be mentioned: faction reputation affects repair price.
 
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You ready to see why Integrity took all my profits? Here it is!
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Edit: So for 6% integrity on mine it would cost 279000... :( I'll be doing what you suggested and selling modules then swapping ship to pay it off lol, your bill doesn't look too bad!
 
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It might seem strange, but actually it makes a lot of sense.

The Python is a pretty standardised common ship, so it's likely that most stations have spare parts, and given it's fairly generic design it's hull plating is likely very easy to replicate on-site. It's also a medium-sized vessel.

By comparison, the Imperial Clipper is not only bigger, but incredibly rare. That means spares are likely hard to come by. As if that isn't already enough to push the maintenance costs up, it has a completely custom built hull that is likely very complex and difficult to replicate (read; 3d print) on-site.

In other words, the Python is a pretty generic production ship as where the Clipper is as close to hand-built as a space craft is ever likely to achieve in 3300.
 
It might seem strange, but actually it makes a lot of sense.

The Python is a pretty standardised common ship, so it's likely that most stations have spare parts, and given it's fairly generic design it's hull plating is likely very easy to replicate on-site. It's also a medium-sized vessel.

By comparison, the Imperial Clipper is not only bigger, but incredibly rare. That means spares are likely hard to come by. As if that isn't already enough to push the maintenance costs up, it has a completely custom built hull that is likely very complex and difficult to replicate (read; 3d print) on-site.

In other words, the Python is a pretty generic production ship as where the Clipper is as close to hand-built as a space craft is ever likely to achieve in 3300.

You see that 932k repair bill? That is a PYTHON. please read the entire thread. There is no special integrity repair on the Clipper, it comes from the expensive A outfittings.
 
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You see that 932k repair bill? That is a PYTHON. please read the entire thread. There is no special integrity repair on the Clipper, it comes from the expensive A outfittings.

My ship is 7.8mil rebuy so... 156mil says calc, that sounds about right.
 
So we don't need to leave station right? Sell modules, switch ship, switch again and voila cheap prices?

Will definitely keep this in mind if I ever mess up in my combat Asp/Clipper/Python (then again Viper is still my no. 1 combat ship)
 
Faction rep:

75% hull left on an Asp in a neutral station I paid about 80K repair.
28% hull left on an Asp in an Allied station I paid 120K repair.

If it isnt rep soemthing very odd is going on.
 
As Derath clearly states here, his combat Python is more expensive on Integrity than my Combat Clipper. So that's not it. It is in fact that outfittings drive up the price of the ship integrity.

How to keep integrity damage costs down:

1. Sell everything
2. switch to another ship
3. switch back
4. Repair Integrity
5. Buy back everything

Wow someone at FD didn't pick the right variable there it seems.
 
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