Should I bother to grind for Prismatic Shields?

Quantis Trap

Quantis Trap
I've got most of the PP things I want and am down to the couple mostly useless weapons and Prismatic Shields. I'm not sure I'll like them enough to use them.

It's an easy grind at the end of the month to get them and I have plenty of credits, so should be grind and then buy some?

I'm curious if after heaving engineering on the various shield types, the Prismatic shields really add that much value vs the down side of the slower recharge.
 
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Cmdr Ultra

Cmdr Ultra
Well depends on what you what to do with them?

Cargo ships can drop down a Shield size with Prismatics for more Cargo space.

Prismatics are amazing for Ramming. Bi-weaves are more in fashion, but I honestly can't count the number of players who have instigated a head on ram with my ship (which has Prismatics) and their shields have naturally broken not mine.

If you don't expect them to ever drop then the slower Broken recharge / regen rate of Prismatics is not a disadvantage. But the weight and power use might be.
 
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Quantis Trap

Quantis Trap
I'm thinking I might try them on my engineered chieftain because it seems to have a lot more power available than I'm currently using and its jump range can support the extra weight. Then again I was also thinking of using bi-weaves on it too because it's fast to get way and recharge and can hull tank to some degree.

I also might try them on my FDL ... and cargo ships as you say.
 
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Finn638

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Prismatics have greater benefit on larger ships - like Corvette, Cutter etc. They can still be useful on the smaller ships, you just might notice you have to wait longer between fights to let the shields recharge. Fast recharge experimental can make it tolerable though.
 

shustas

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Its like asking where do I go with cargo missions to get some juicy credit reward... And the best all mighty moderator replies: just go anywhere in boom system there is no secret... oh ok, I did not think of that after 999 hours of game time. Thanks mate. Your a savior...

No f if or what or f this and that and those. Just get it. Engineer it. And then compare. Dont listen to these old ka.ts. They dont want u have it. So they start with the sentence like "that dependzzz what ship and what cz or pk or hs ir maybe bd... u want to do blablabla" really??? Just really???
 

Cmdr Ultra

Cmdr Ultra
shustas said:
No f if or what or f this and that and those. Just get it. Engineer it. And then compare. Dont listen to these old ka.ts. They dont want u have it. So they start with the sentence like "that dependzzz what ship and what cz or pk or hs ir maybe bd... u want to do blablabla" really??? Just really???
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I have to agree with William Shakespeare here - I think we can condense his babble into "Just do it".

They are well worth the 30 day wait.
 

[VR] Goooost

[VR] Goooost
I really want to like them, but it barely recharges. Even the recharge rate special effect is in percentage form so you know, what's 4% of 1? No upgrade can improve that charge rate. Really disappointing.

So think about your effective shields. Say you have 3000 in prismatics. They recharge a little if you fight for 10 minutes effectively maybe you have 3600.
Now lets say you fight the same 10 minutes with biweaves, at 2000 strength. Your effective strength might be 4400.
So Prismatics would only be useful if you were in a situation where the combat time was only a couple minutes and the adversary could take down your entire shield in that timeframe, completely eliminating the recharge bonus from the picture. So... PVP only.
 

shustas

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Yes get it and those. Means from size 1 to 8. If u have space and cash. Some cutter biggest size can eat your credits a bit. Go thermal or reinforced.
It depends a bit only a bit of what you want to see full rings of blue or maybe a bit of 1 ring missing but still going... ohhh lets hear how it depends on blablabla... I like it its my favorite blablabla
 

Lanceor

Lanceor
The disadvantage of slower recharge for Prismatics has been almost completely negated by a recent change - you can reboot them and they come back on at 50% capacity.

It takes a fair amount of attrition to wear down even one ring of prismatic shields that are properly boosted for resistances and strength. Rebooting the shields takes a mere 20 seconds and can be done in the middle of a RES (if you have no cargo) or 10+ km from the centre of a CZ.
 

Bortas

Bortas
20% more shield strength is nice, especially for ships with underpowered shields, like the federal X-ship. And grind? Waiting for four weeks and then hauling a few propaganda leaflets can hardly be called grind, can it? ;)
 

Chaparral

Chaparral
Biweaves are nice for sustained fighting (res zone and cz).

Prismatics are harder to crack, so are nice for strikes (like assassinations) or some pvp or ramming.

Prismatics are nice for cargo hauling, since you can go with a reduced size and essentially get A rated strength for the upsize.

PVP guys really have the meta down, so I won't speak for them. I think it depends on the build model you're trying to achieve in that arena.
 

Guyperson

Guyperson
Cmdr Ultra said:
If you don't expect them to ever drop then the slower Broken recharge / regen rate of Prismatics is not a disadvantage. But the weight and power use might be.
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Even if the shield breaks the broken regen rate isn't nearly the sort of inconvenience it used to be given the way reboot/repair works now.
 

Threeofseven

Threeofseven
Only if you're flying one of the big three, python or FDL for PVP. For other ships bi weaves are usually better and prismatics are completely unnecessary for PVE under most conditions.
 

Captain Thea Kreutzer

Captain Thea Kreutzer
CMDR QUANTIS TRAP said:
I've got most of the PP things I want and am down to the couple mostly useless weapons and Prismatic Shields. I'm not sure I'll like them enough to use them.

It's an easy grind at the end of the month to get them and I have plenty of credits, so should be grind and then buy some?

I'm curious if after heaving engineering on the various shield types, the Prismatic shields really add that much value vs the down side of the slower recharge.
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yes prismatics are worth it. its not that hard to get the merits for it if you are undermining and its a boost over regular shields + they look cooler
 
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Finn638

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shustas said:
Well Im sorry, if some dude like me told "me" almost a year ago about all this...
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Well my advice would also be to just get them and test them out. No amount of talking would give a person the full idea of how how good or bad they are, until the person tries it out themselves. To me Prismatics can be good for some things (like soloing wing assassination missions, or any high-risk situation), or not so good for others (Haz Rez or CZ, where bi-weave would be better); but someone else might think otherwise.

Your point was sound, the only way to truly find out is to try. But it may help for the person to get some info about what to expect.
 
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