shout out to special commander!

Last night, I finally experienced the fleet carrier jump for the first time in my life. I tried so hard not to watch videos of the newest jump update, but stars above was it worth it. But that's not all. The owner, Commander "The Hommie, Clamier of the Stars," was generous enough to give me special access to the upper restricted area and charting a second jump! He is a SUPER friendly commander who tries to help others whenever he can, and I could not be more grateful. Both the internet and the world need people like him. If you ever see this commander in your travels, give him your best o7; he'll be there for you! Long live the Claimer of the Stars! O7!
 
I wish as a FC owner we could advertise a lot more through ingame tools. It's insane how much untapped potential every single feature this game has. FC can make some incredible emerging content and community related stuff, but due to the lack of tools to advertise it, they are glorified personal hauler for most players.

Imagine having tools to allocate storage for CMDR (like X tonnes for CMDR Bob) to carry stuff for CG, or a board thing to put announces (like we have in dedicated reddit/discord), that kind of stuff. We can't even say what kind of service, tariff and accessibility our FC have. Player need to go through multiple menu to see it and it's probably not even accurate.

I would love to use my FC to help other CMDR, but that's some really painful process I'm not willing to do.
That's one hell of an awesome name, regardless of his kindness!
Not "buttholejenkins", but that's OK I guess.
 
Not "buttholejenkins", but that's OK I guess

Yes, this is a good point. I'm going to put it in my top ten for now though, just because I have no idea how the carrier owner got so many letters in his name! Example being, buttholejenkins really had to work for his fame! ;)
 
I wish as a FC owner we could advertise a lot more through ingame tools. It's insane how much untapped potential every single feature this game has. FC can make some incredible emerging content and community related stuff, but due to the lack of tools to advertise it, they are glorified personal hauler for most players.

Imagine having tools to allocate storage for CMDR (like X tonnes for CMDR Bob) to carry stuff for CG, or a board thing to put announces (like we have in dedicated reddit/discord), that kind of stuff. We can't even say what kind of service, tariff and accessibility our FC have. Player need to go through multiple menu to see it and it's probably not even accurate.

I would love to use my FC to help other CMDR, but that's some really painful process I'm not willing to do.

Not "buttholejenkins", but that's OK I guess.
My hunger for griefer aka "emergent" content is satiated. Probably for life.
 
My hunger for griefer aka "emergent" content is satiated. Probably for life.
They could be used for a lot more than griefing. Some already are, but they all rely on 3rd party tools and other.
Like Colonia taxi service, deep space refuelling or expeditions, Booze Cruise, trading (loading/unloading FC)....

All that stuff could be integrated in the game, and instead of people disliking the FC presence, they might like them better.

FC are tools. And right now, they are hammers while Fdev only give us screws, so obviously it's not the best. But all they have to do is give us nails, and suddenly they are quite good.
 
I wish as a FC owner we could advertise a lot more through ingame tools. It's insane how much untapped potential every single feature this game has. FC can make some incredible emerging content and community related stuff, but due to the lack of tools to advertise it, they are glorified personal hauler for most players.
It's probably a lot of work, but I've suggested that the info panel in the system map would be a great place to give a FC owner some space to insert a description of services/prices/etc..
 
They could be used for a lot more than griefing. Some already are, but they all rely on 3rd party tools and other.
Like Colonia taxi service, deep space refuelling or expeditions, Booze Cruise, trading (loading/unloading FC)....

All that stuff could be integrated in the game, and instead of people disliking the FC presence, they might like them better.

FC are tools. And right now, they are hammers while Fdev only give us screws, so obviously it's not the best. But all they have to do is give us nails, and suddenly they are quite good.
I wouldn't know. I know you can use it to ferry others around to places they would never have visited on their own because of the large distances, but tbh - I'd rather prefer that to be a single player option. I'm not hot on begging others for something I'd like to do or get ripped off because they have the means but me peasant doesn't. In essence - I don't really want to play Elite as MP game.
 
I wouldn't know. I know you can use it to ferry others around to places they would never have visited on their own because of the large distances, but tbh - I'd rather prefer that to be a single player option. I'm not hot on begging others for something I'd like to do or get ripped off because they have the means but me peasant doesn't. In essence - I don't really want to play Elite as MP game.
If you think having player made trade offer for good money, taxi services to distant part of the galaxy, good transport to help you do CG delivery, quick repair/refuel/rearm near a CZ or in deep space... is griefing, then yeah, nothing can be done.
If anything, FC are harder to use to grief than any other tools the player have. At worst, they grief amongst each other because FC never prevented a regular ship to do whatever he or she wanted to do.
It's probably a lot of work, but I've suggested that the info panel in the system map would be a great place to give a FC owner some space to insert a description of services/prices/etc..
What could have been done :

-ability to "sub" (and unsub ofc) to a FC (or several) so you get to know what they are doing, where they are, what they plan to do.... Say, sub to the Colonia taxi service, so you know when to take it. Or PTN booze cruise. Or your minor faction FC.
-ability for FC owner to set up a message that is transmitted to all player "subbed" to his FC and everyone currently on board, like "leaving for XX system next".
-ability to plot several jump at a time (basically what the regular ship can do), with the extra ability to set a timer between each jump, so you can plot exploration expeditions in a few click. Have all the datas concerning the trip in a handy and easy to access tool (like megaships currently do), so the player know they have say 24h before the FC jump to the next system (with the name and all)
-A "board" of some kind the FC owner can personalize. Perhaps with pre made tag you can pick from (role : taxi, refuel, trade, CG hauler, exploration...). With a search feature to search for FC (and pre made filter like "all access, no tariff, search for installed modules...). Say for example "FC dedicated to colonia-bubble taxi" and then you search for taxi, and voila. Essentially, like the faction search but for carrier
-ability to set up whitelist and blacklist for carrier owner, with what kind of access they give. Say I don't want CMDR Bob aboard because I don't like him, so he is blacklisted and will never be able to land on my FC. On the other hand, CMDR Bill is my pal, and even if I'm not ingame, he can land and access the "VIP" observation deck. As for CMDR Jim, that's my alt, so I want to give him access to jump capabilities as well. All that irrelevant of the regular "open for all-friend only-closed" status we already have
-make it clear which FC can be landed upon. We have already an icon to let you know if you can land on station (especially if they don't have large pad and you are a large ship), use that one ? Seems obvious to me.
-ability to reserve cargo space for some people. For CG hauling for example. Or have a "private storage" module which allow CMDR to store some amount of commodities. If the commodities is left untouched for a set period of time, the CMDR is warned, and if they still don't do anything then it's transferred to the FC owner. Make it so having stored stuff on the FC gives you access for as long as you have stuff inside to prevent abuse.


From the top of my head, can be worked upon, balanced and improved. They have a dev team for that^^
 
Last night, I finally experienced the fleet carrier jump for the first time in my life. I tried so hard not to watch videos of the newest jump update, but stars above was it worth it. But that's not all. The owner, Commander "The Hommie, Clamier of the Stars," was generous enough to give me special access to the upper restricted area and charting a second jump! He is a SUPER friendly commander who tries to help others whenever he can, and I could not be more grateful. Both the internet and the world need people like him. If you ever see this commander in your travels, give him your best o7; he'll be there for you! Long live the Claimer of the Stars! O7!

the intention was laudable, but mistakes were made 😂

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If you think having player made trade offer for good money, taxi services to distant part of the galaxy, good transport to help you do CG delivery, quick repair/refuel/rearm near a CZ or in deep space... is griefing, then yeah, nothing can be done.
If anything, FC are harder to use to grief than any other tools the player have. At worst, they grief amongst each other because FC never prevented a regular ship to do whatever he or she wanted to do.
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Jumping thousands of ly out and leaving players stranded?
 
Jumping thousands of ly out and leaving players stranded?
Problem solved in Odyssey. Also, it was a specific case of newbie abuse.
On the other hand, if you land on a FC, a mobile base, and don't expect it to move, that's kinda on you :D I never check if I have people docked aboard mine when I move. I hope I never had anybody stranded, but.... To be honest, I think the only way to check is through 3rd party and it's not even an easy process. And you can't contact them other than hoping they are online or through said 3rd party site.

The issue with FC is mostly how they were dropped by Fdev then forgotten until the interior, and then most likely forgotten again. Like most of their features.
 
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