Single player for Prem beta and standard

DraigUK

DraigUK
Stoo said:
My wife backed the game on KS, surely since the game hasn't been released yet and the expected release date has already expired, she should get access to the 1.1 scenarios too.

(Where do you draw the line?)
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Well, in truth I wouldn't, as such.

I'd give the single player out to the standard beta guys and gals 2 weeks after premium beta got it (see what I did there?)

I'd give the single player out to everyone on 30th May, so Gamma backers included.

2 weeks after Gamma backers get it (yes there is a deliberate pattern here to fall in with what FD are doing for Alpha people) I'd release it to the public to get even more interest in FD, and give them something to try.

It's a decent enough demo of the game to give people a taster for it I think.
 

mrrockitt

mrrockitt
DraigUK said:
Well, in truth I wouldn't, as such.

I'd give the single player out to the standard beta guys and gals 2 weeks after premium beta got it (see what I did there?)

I'd give the single player out to everyone on 30th May, so Gamma backers included.

2 weeks after Gamma backers get it (yes there is a deliberate pattern here to fall in with what FD are doing for Alpha people) I'd release it to the public to get even more interest in FD, and give them something to try.

It's a decent enough demo of the game to give people a taster for it I think.
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Good ideas there!

Have you thought of standing for election? I'd vote for you! :)
 

Cactus_Punch

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Actually that does seem like a far better idea, release the single player aspect right now to EVERYONE as a demo, with people being able to easily try an Elite taster that would surely give a big boost to publicity
 

tooterfish

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The 1.1 build is bloody ancient by now, it doesn't give an accurate representation of where the game is at all. Yet I've seen at least one post on this forum referring to it as the beta build, so imagine how people would get the wrong end of the stick out in the wider internet?

I think releasing older builds to beta players would actually be a bad move publicity wise.

Lets have a bit of patience and wait for the proper beta.
 
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Leonick

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tooterfish said:
The 1.1 build is bloody ancient by now, it doesn't give an accurate representation of where the game is at all. Yet I've seen at least one post on this forum referring to it as the beta build, so imagine how people would get the wrong end of the stick out in the wider internet?

I think releasing older builds to beta players would actually be a bad move publicity wise.

Lets have a bit of patience and wait for the proper beta.
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I've seen many posts referring to it as the beta. Can't really blame them though, that's on FD and the way they announced and communicated that whole thing in newsletter and store.

I agree that it wouldn't be a good demo. Just the issues with resolutions that aren't 16:9 and multiple input devices are big enough (especially since newer builds have that taken care of) that it'd be a poor demo. But that's not all that has changed, ship handling has improved as well.

A public demo would be good at some point but the combat test Alpha isn't good enough and FD shouldn't be wasting time on making a new demo build at this point.
 

StarTux

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BacchusZA said:
OFF-TOPIC WARNING

You can have a look at DCS World if you'd like a good and *free* simulator to play around in until E: D goes live :)

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/

If you're not familiar with it, the base simulator comes with the SU-25 (Russian ground-attack jet), and the publicly available beta that's going on currently also gives free access to the training version of the P-51 Mustang. The other paid modules, such as the A-10, Huey, and Ka-50 all plug into that, & all work together at the same time - you can fly your SU-25, your friend could be in an F-15, somebody else can be flying the Huey, or an A-10, while yet another person is driving a tank, all at the same time in the same multiplayer session.

The systems modelling in the free SU-25 is fairly basic, but I have to warn you it's a proper simulator and *not* an arcade type game like HAWX, for example. The A-10 module, for example, is a (slightly) watered down version of a training aid that was built for Air National Guard A-10 squadrons. All the switches in the real aircraft are modelled in the sim, and most of them work the way they're supposed to. It's great fun though, & the basic DCS World is definitely a good way to exercise the new joystick without spending any money :)


Anyway, back on topic - as somebody who falls into the Standard Beta bracket, I'd be quite happy if we were also given slightly earlier access to the single-player component before the launch of the full beta. I'm not too fussed about it though, & there's a large part of me that would prefer to wait for the more fully featured beta.
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And less complicated on the systems front, try Rise of Flight:

http://riseofflight.com/en/community/usefulmaterials

Brilliant WW1 seat-of-pants flying, and the whole game free with two planes, perfect alongside DCS and Elite :).
 

StarTux

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Stoo said:
My wife backed the game on KS, surely since the game hasn't been released yet and the expected release date has already expired, she should get access to the 1.1 scenarios too.

(Where do you draw the line?)
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Ah, one can draw the line at the estimated delivery date being missed, although they did release Alpha 1 on time.

Not aiming this at anyone in particular, but this this was being delivered traditionally I suspect we would have seen Elite cut down a lot to enable it to release much closer to the estimated date and I suspect we ain't seen nothing yet :D.
 

Aewarin Jameson

Aewarin Jameson
Silverflyer said:
Why do you have to come and bash people like this? I am Premium Beta, but I would not mind Standard Beta getting single player access on 30/MAY, the latest. That is MY opinion, now go and bash me as well for {whatever reason}
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I think you need to re-read Cody's post, think and reflect, then come back here and apologise.

However that's just my opinion.

Cody said:
<scratches head> Bash people? <wanders away, bemused>
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Indeed ...
 

cptzipzap

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would be cool if prem. beta users could get alpha 1.2 maybe.

I doubt many would upgrade to alpha for just 1 month - but yeah I dont mind waiting..

It would be cool to have the newest flight model though / mechanics of the game and ability to use the newest joystick and trackIR methods and dont have the old alpha 1.1 bugs though...
 

ubermick

ubermick
Well, having plopped down a hundred and fifty bucks for Premium Beta today (ooooh, when the wife sees the credit card bill…), I'd have to agree - anyone who stumped up the cash 18 months ago deffo deserves to be allowed access to at least the same alpha build currently available to Premium Beta.
 
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