Smugglers I need your help!

[Dionysusjones]

The TLDR is Sign here is you agree that Smuggling is not the same as being a fence for stolen goods: I will elaborate below.


Several people me included have noticed that taking a specific good that is legally bought from on station that is restricted in another area is not near as profitable as even some legitimate trade routes. Why in this great galaxy would anybody fit out an agile ship that is capable of outrunning and maneuvering to avoid the authorities with minimal cargo hold when they can just as easily buy a space brick and haul hundreds of tons of legal cargo for more profit?

It has been suggested that smuggling goods into a station to create unrest should be its own reward. I completely dissagree. In the real world drug smugglers don't ship cocaine from columbia because they want to undermine the US government. They smuggle drugs to get rich. And they sure as heck don't steal the cocaine from the drug lords before they bring it over. Thats a good way to get you and your family set on fire.

I'm ok with fencing goods being a viable career in the game but it isn't smuggling and shouldn't be the only way to make a profit sneaking goods into stations.


Let FD know we want Actual smuggling to be a play style in ED!

 

[Kicks]

You make a good point.

I think "Stolen" Cargo should remain as-is. It was free, essentially.

However, purchasing legal goods in system A which are illegal in system B carries just as significant risk and the black market should pay above galactic-average for them. Smuggling should be lucrative, but with associated risks.

 

[Zeeman]

You make a good point.

I think "Stolen" Cargo should remain as-is. It was free, essentially.

However, purchasing legal goods in system A which are illegal in system B carries just as significant risk and the black market should pay above galactic-average for them. Smuggling should be lucrative, but with associated risks.

This was my assumption, that smuggling legal goods to places here they are not so legal should be quite profitable...

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[Ben Ryder]

smuggling legal goods to places here they are not so legal should be quite profitable...

Z...

Totally agree

Have fun Chaps

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I've been smuggling onion head in to Sol and making 2000cr profit per tonne. Its fun!

 

[Rearden]

This has been discussed ad nauseum previously and although it got better the earnings still don't compare with legal trading. I hope once they fix the trade AI they can focus on us, for the moment slave missions is as good as it gets (ofc onion head is profitable and I am doing them at 15k/ton profit but it is just another rare, there should be a bonus for dropping it in the black market that is NOT an unguarded outpost)

 

[Zeeman]

This has been discussed ad nauseum previously and although it got better the earnings still don't compare with legal trading. I hope once they fix the trade AI they can focus on us, for the moment slave missions is as good as it gets (ofc onion head is profitable and I am doing them at 15k/ton profit but it is just another rare, there should be a bonus for dropping it in the black market that is NOT an unguarded outpost)

Agree with this. I'm good at getting into station unscanned, but still, given the choice, I'll pick an outpost - give me a few more grand per T, and I'll make the effort to go to a proper station...



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[Vyvian]

For Dionysisjones: I'll put my name to this. Anything to get real smuggling into the game. (and passenger missions)

To Ben Ryder: Noticed the good work you were doing on this in the other thread. Sorry I never got round to adding my support on your thread.

 

[schuesseled]

smuggling is done by mules, mules are not well paid. Don't be the mule, buy an apartment on the station and institute gangs to push your product.

 

[BigFW]

More lucrative smuggling gets a thumbs up from me. Passenger missions as well. Then I can play Han Solo simulator Man I need to grow up

 

[Souldoubt]

Following the logic then if there is people smuggling or advanced smuggling eventually missions should come to you not you look for missions...like imagine getting an emailed request to move someone quickly since you are known to be good.......

 

[Ben Ryder]

For Dionysisjones: I'll put my name to this. Anything to get real smuggling into the game. (and passenger missions)

To Ben Ryder: Noticed the good work you were doing on this in the other thread. Sorry I never got round to adding my support on your thread.

Thanks that's cheered me up. I have a gripe with a particular aspect of the game which needs a fix and has put me off playing as much. Christmas is here and with it good cheer! Im going to go crazy and get smashed on tea an crumpets and Elite!

By the way is your avatar from S.T.A.L.K.E.R (a brilliant game!)

 

[Vyvian]

Thanks that's cheered me up. I have a gripe with a particular aspect of the game which needs a fix and has put me off playing as much. Christmas is here and with it good cheer! Im going to go crazy and get smashed on tea an crumpets and Elite!

By the way is your avatar from S.T.A.L.K.E.R (a brilliant game!)

Yes it is from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. Good Spot

I think I know where you're at.

In Frontier: Elite all I did was smuggle and passenger missions. Had great fun doing it. I kind of expected that on release we would atleast have the same basic functionality of Frontier in these regards.

I still have faith in FD, but I think that it will be a while before we see some movement on this cause. There are a lot more vocal people screaming their door down regarding other issues and I have to admit that I'm one of them. Really liking what they've done with the story campaign, just really frustrating at the level of feedback we get from it and a lack of a 'rulebook' to the scenarios.

If you want to have some fun smuggling now, do what I did. Go to Jera, shoot up ever cop that you see till the Social Democrats really hate you, then run missions for the Nationalists importing guns and meds and things into the Democrats base of Asire Port.

 

[Dionysusjones]

Totally agree

Have fun Chaps

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I've been smuggling onion head in to Sol and making 2000cr profit per tonne. Its fun!

Hey Ben I seen your black market thread back on the beta forums and such.. I knew you would be on board for this but if you already have a dedicated thread on this subject please by all means link it and we can send everybody to the same place not trying to steal anybody's thunder here however actual smuggling gets in the game is fine by me

 

[Ben Ryder]

Hey Ben I seen your black market thread back on the beta forums and such.. I knew you would be on board for this but if you already have a dedicated thread on this subject please by all means link it and we can send everybody to the same place not trying to steal anybody's thunder here however actual smuggling gets in the game is fine by me

The more the merrier

I'm going to update the Black Market stuff now I'm on holiday been doing bits and pieces here and there.

Cheers Chaps