So are we just not going to talk about the fact Frontier missed the point of gunner restrictions entirely?

[furrycat]

Whether or not you approve of the OP's tone or motives doesn't invalidate his complaint. Role restrictions are supposed to give the helm the ability to lock out certain multicrew options and in this case they don't fully meet that requirement.

Saying "don't use turrets" is no good if you, the helm, want to use turrets.

Saying "don't play multicrew" is no good if you want to let people fly fighters.

Saying "only invite your friends" is no good if you want to meet new people. Or if only one friend joins, in which case the other seat automatically becomes publically available with no way for you to override it.

Saying "I've only ever had an enjoyable multicrew experience" or "multicrew is a pointless waste of time" is offtopic.

It's perfectly reasonable for players to join multicrew, see that there's a gunner role with turrets and assume that they're up for grabs. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable for the helm to grow tired of typing "sorry I'd prefer if you only operated the fighters" over and over again.

It's possible to lock the fighter con. It should be possible to lock the gunner position too.

 

[Requiem Mortis]

I enjoy opening my ship (FGS - Turrets / SLF) to MC....but I would like additional options on the match making,

1) Toggles for roles offered.
2) Toggle for Microphone Required.

I don't want mute Crew on my ship, it's rubbish trying to explain 'MY' rules of engage or give instructions to crew using text chat.

My experience echoes those above no-one wants the Gunner role and t.b.h. I too prefer the SLF's.

 

[NVNM]

Like some other issues, I fail to understand why people keep having the expectation that Frontier should be responsible for questionable player actions.

Weird,any time there is some sort of open PvP going on people start screaming for Fdev to lynch those nasty evil PvP people but here, where actual trolling outside the intended mechanics of the game can take place it's not their business.

 

[Punished Mobius]

Whether or not you approve of the OP's tone or motives doesn't invalidate his complaint. Role restrictions are supposed to give the helm the ability to lock out certain multicrew options and in this case they don't fully meet that requirement.

Saying "don't use turrets" is no good if you, the helm, want to use turrets.

Saying "don't play multicrew" is no good if you want to let people fly fighters.

Saying "only invite your friends" is no good if you want to meet new people. Or if only one friend joins, in which case the other seat automatically becomes publically available with no way for you to override it.

Saying "I've only ever had an enjoyable multicrew experience" or "multicrew is a pointless waste of time" is offtopic.

It's perfectly reasonable for players to join multicrew, see that there's a gunner role with turrets and assume that they're up for grabs. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable for the helm to grow tired of typing "sorry I'd prefer if you only operated the fighters" over and over again.

It's possible to lock the fighter con. It should be possible to lock the gunner position too.

Way to blast through these people's weak arguments for me.
This sums it up perfectly on all points. Especially that last part. I am so tired of telling every random who comes aboard every 3 minutes not to touch the guns after they take them without permission.

Frontier I implore you to look through my chat log...search for the keyword "gunner" the amount of times I say it is ridiculous...