Newcomer / Intro So does my free Sidewinder after death always spawn at Trevithick Dock?

Thinking that my free Sidewinder would spawn at the last station I docked in, I self destructed in a stripped down Sidewinder outside Dublin Citadel in Gateway today, hoping that I could have my free Sidewinder back to do some shenanigans with it. But in the after-death screen I had either the option to buy the stripped Sidey back or to respawn in LHS 3447 where I originally entered the game, in my free Sidewinder.

Is that a bug or working as intended? If so - very disappointing.
 
I get the feeling it's a bug. I got popped by the station defence in a Viper and had to get back into a freebie Sidey even though I had two other ships. I respawned in the Sidey in the station I got my Viper popped in.
 
You guys would benefit from READING the post-death ship selection screen before asking the forum. The game clearly shows where you would spawn depending on which ship you choose. Choosing a free Sidewinder will spawn you at Trevithick Dock, LHS 3447 (or if your initial spawn is in another system, it will show that starting system).

But reading is for the weak right?
 
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You guys would benefit from READING the post-death ship selection screen before asking the forum.

But reading is for the weak right?

I don't know how I attracted this kind of hostility. I thought my OP clearly stated that I indeed READ the insurance screen before clicking anything.

The only reason I am asking is because there are people like Tryst (above) who claim to have respawned in their free Sidewinder at their last known location. I wanted my free Sidewinder to be where my current home shipyard is, so I equipped it for long distance jumping and hopped it all the way to Gateway where my Asp is parked. I then stripped it of all unnecessary stuff and self destructed after undocking, hoping that the free Sidewinder with all the loaned equipment parts would be available for respawn at Dublin Citadel where I had last been.

Instead, I got the option to buy back my stripped Sidey for ~1000cr or respawn at Trevithick Dock yet again.

What really confused me is that the fully kitted out AsP I have parked at Dublin Citadel wasn't a respawn option at all. Shouldn't you be able to respawn in one of your other ships if your current ship gets destroyed?

Anyway... Not sure I should ticket this, as I can't quite identify it as a bug. Maybe it is an incomplete and illogical feature?
 
I don't think you can spawn at any other dock, other than treveithick / wherever you start, if you do not dock at a different one.

I know it saves at least the starting dock / one you purchase the ship at, as well as the last visited, possibly 3 or more...

TLDR: if you have landed at another station/dock you should be able to select the option of restarting there.
if you have not landed at another station/dock you will be forced to spawn at the only available, starting / purchase location dock.

if anything else happens you're either experiencing a bug or copping flak on the forums ;)
edit: or there's some hidden rule that ED hasn't explained and is in effect.. on that i do not know. This could include server side issue that didn't save ur location, esp if you PC-crashed in dock or left quickly or something...
 
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I don't know how I attracted this kind of hostility. I thought my OP clearly stated that I indeed READ the insurance screen before clicking anything.

The only reason I am asking is because there are people like Tryst (above) who claim to have respawned in their free Sidewinder at their last known location. I wanted my free Sidewinder to be where my current home shipyard is, so I equipped it for long distance jumping and hopped it all the way to Gateway where my Asp is parked. I then stripped it of all unnecessary stuff and self destructed after undocking, hoping that the free Sidewinder with all the loaned equipment parts would be available for respawn at Dublin Citadel where I had last been.

Instead, I got the option to buy back my stripped Sidey for ~1000cr or respawn at Trevithick Dock yet again.

What really confused me is that the fully kitted out AsP I have parked at Dublin Citadel wasn't a respawn option at all. Shouldn't you be able to respawn in one of your other ships if your current ship gets destroyed?

Anyway... Not sure I should ticket this, as I can't quite identify it as a bug. Maybe it is an incomplete and illogical feature?

LOL, u dont deserve any hostility...evryone has bad days ;)...u shud not be respawning at diff docks after death. These are known bugs...
 
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If you have Insurance you get a choice ...... your old ship or a Sidey and respawn at the last docked station

If you have no Insurance and no 200K loan left you spawn in starter system
 
As for the Asp not being a respawn option, I feel that perhaps it should be but am pretty sure that at the moment it's just not a feature of the game.

I can't fully remember the options that were presented to me last time I died but I was in a Sidewinder that had been modified from the original. I do remember Trevithick Dock being an option, or I could choose to buy-back my insured Sidewinder with the modifications. I chose the latter and respawned at my last docked location... which was in Potriti. I don't think the game explains it but I get the impression you only get to go to your last docked location if you choose the insurance option. The free sidewinder will always be back where you first started.

I'm confused though as to what you were trying to achieve. Since you have an Asp, surely you could afford to kit the Sidewinder you flew over there out with the original parts? It seems strange that you decided you would rather try and get back the exact same Sidewinder with the loaned equipment that you began the game with.
 
You guys would benefit from READING the post-death ship selection screen before asking the forum. The game clearly shows where you would spawn depending on which ship you choose. Choosing a free Sidewinder will spawn you at Trevithick Dock, LHS 3447 (or if your initial spawn is in another system, it will show that starting system).

But reading is for the weak right?
But then it makes my respawn a bug!
I got popped in a Viper by station defence after being bumped back into the station by a huge freighter and couldn't pay the insurance. I chose the freebie sidewinder and got respawned in the same station (Erevate). I started out at LHS 3447 myself.
 
What really confused me is that the fully kitted out AsP I have parked at Dublin Citadel wasn't a respawn option at all. Shouldn't you be able to respawn in one of your other ships if your current ship gets destroyed?

This part, at least, is working as designed. You either buy back the ship you were just flying, or take the free Sidewinder - your other owned ships will still be docked where you left them, but you can't just jump into one of them.

I'm not sure what the intended design of the free Sidey spawn system is, but logically it would make sense that it's the last station you docked at, and not always your home system. As others have mentioned, this strikes me as a bug and I'd ticket it.
 
Not sure if I am reading this right, but if I am, this is what I understand:

-Option A: You want the exact ship you were just flying. For that, you have to pay insurance. You will get the same ship as outfitted as it was at a cost and plus, locate at the last visited station.
-Option B: No, you don't want to pay a thing or have no money. Then you go back to square 1, Sidey in LHS 3447.

From where I stand, it sounds only fair. I don't see why anything else that implies not money from pocket should reward you in any form.
 
You guys would benefit from READING the post-death ship selection screen before asking the forum. The game clearly shows where you would spawn depending on which ship you choose. Choosing a free Sidewinder will spawn you at Trevithick Dock, LHS 3447 (or if your initial spawn is in another system, it will show that starting system).

But reading is for the weak right?

Hey congrats on being a jerk, comes easy for some. It saying on the respawn screen where they respawn doesn't even have to do with their question. They wanted to know why they spawned there. I would ask the same thing as I read before that you spawn where you last docked.

As a new player, I wouldn't know this info on my own.

I guess being nice is for the weak though, huh?
 
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Hey congrats on being a jerk, comes easy for some. It saying on the respawn screen where they respawn doesn't even have to do with their question. They wanted to know why they spawned there. I would ask the same thing as I read before that you spawn where you last docked.

As a new player, I wouldn't know this info on my own.

I guess being nice is for the weak though, huh?

to be fair it's a rather confusing question ... and indeed I missed the clue myself the first time around

Thinking that my free Sidewinder would spawn at the last station I docked in

the OP was in his starting "free sidewinder" .... I assume it had a value for insurance above o credits if it had been upgraded with modules above the starting grade (?)

if so

he would then get the options of paying insurance (which he said he could not) and spawning at the last docked station

OR normally you have the option of taking a "FREE" sidewinder at the same station.... but I assume (again) that you cannot take the SAME SHIP option twice so it offers starter system option instead

it's a hunch based on when I self destructed myself in a totally engine dead Freagle in a off the way part of the galaxy 2 weeks ago
 
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The manual can be found here: http://hosting.zaonce.net/elite/website/assets/ELITE-DANGEROUS-GAME-MANUAL.pdf

When you are declared bankrupt, you should find yourself in a new sidewinder in your starting system. If this doesn't happen it seems to be a bug. If this happened during the weekend: lots of weird things happened due to some server problem. The manual doesn't say where you spawn if you can pay insurance, but it should be the last visited station. If upon death any bounties were issued against you by the faction of that station, the total sum of bounties is added to the insurance. If you are in your starting sidey I guess you should have a choice: pay the non-existing insurance and start at last station, or get a new sidewinder and go to your starting system.
 
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to be fair it's a rather confusing question ... and indeed I missed the clue myself the first time around



the OP was in his starting "free sidewinder" .... I assume it had a value for insurance above o credits if it had been upgraded with modules above the starting grade (?)

if so

he would then get the options of paying insurance (which he said he could not) and spawning at the last docked station

OR normally you have the option of taking a "FREE" sidewinder at the same station.... but I assume (again) that you cannot take the SAME SHIP option twice so it offers starter system option instead

it's a hunch based on when I self destructed myself in a totally engine dead Freagle in a off the way part of the galaxy 2 weeks ago

Well I think they could afford the insurance, but were hoping they'd hit upon a way to transfer their starter Sidewinder to Gateway, even though they already had an Asp (I've no idea why they wanted to do this). So they sold all unnecessary loaned components to make it lighter, they kitted it out with a top quality FSD to make the trip quicker... then once they arrived, they wanted to return it to its previous configuration, and thought rather than have to buy the basic pulse lasers and stuff from outfitting, they dock and undock at a station in Gateway sell the FSD, and could then self-destruct and another starter Sidewinder would spawn in Gateway for free.

I'm still not sure I understand the rationale of it all. If they can afford an Asp then kitting out a Sidewinder to get it to the same configuration as the starter Sidewinder, even though they will have to pay for the modules rather than having free loaned modules, should be chump-change; so why go to all the bother of trying to get a free Sidewinder to spawn in Gateway?

I feel the real reason for this is that any situation where a commander has a plan in which self-destructing a ship to take advantage of the respawn was part of it all along sounds a lot like an exploit for me. Even if I can't understand why they would want a starter Sidewinder alongside an Asp in the first place, the fact is that they did and respawning was their method to achieve this. The starter Sidewinder should be a last-resort, included in the game so that we don't have to have permanent death, not a useful way of getting about.
 
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